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i wanna have some input on wheather to get 2 dc 2ks or 2 aq2200's to power 2 xl 18s.. which will give me more power? cause dc amps seem more efficient and still have same fuse rating.. plan is to strap them @ 1ohm or just run one amp per sub @ .5ohm.. pricing on these amps are very similar also..
what is your guys opinion on 2 planet audio bb2400.1s iv heard nothing bad about them.. educate me
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I have 2 xl on a dc 5k I was gonna run 2 aq 3500 but having 2 amps and electrical is to much of a hastle. And want I would want to upgrade all I have to do buy2 more subs and another big amp. Oh and in my opinion 1 big amp is cooler then 2 little ones.
^^^ Or if you want some head room and have the electrical, get two DC 5k's for your future setup. Two big amps looks wayy better than one big amp...
i thank im doing a 5k now.. and when i want more power ill probaly get a 7.5k and farther future have 4 xl 18s in a 4th order on 2 7.5ks.. maybe 2 9ks?
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I wonder what his electrical is going to look like.
Good question. If you want to run at half ohm and rely on rise you better have a stout electrical to put behind it. To me there is NO sense in running a 1 ohm stable amp at .5 in a daily application just to hope you get more power. I can understand in a competition vehicle where you only burp one freq and know all of the variables of your particular install. When playing music your rise is going to change with every frequency in the song. You may be seeing 2 ohms one second and 13 ohms the next.
i am aware of that.. rusty has told me he has ran i thank the 5k on .3 all day long.. they all can do that im sure.. yellow top under the hood cause very little internal resistence and iv heard can handle almost unlimited recharge and discharge rates... soo good idea if u ask me.. and 2 or 3 xs3100s
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One amp is better in mine opinion.less stuff for somthing to go wrong.but thats just my 2 cents
that has some truth cause u wanna match power/gains and filters on the amps so there is no cancellation.. i thank u talked me into a 5k lol..
so wait the master amp gain doesnt set hte gain for both amps when strapped? come on now
iv never strapped amps yet but i do believe they share the same gain.. u really been tuned in to kno we were talking about strappin them.. your rediculous lmao
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rise doesn't even really make a difference unless you are burping. Its not going to be constant in a daily application anyway
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it does flucuate and also with diff frequencies.. makes more since to me cause i seen 4 dc 8s on a 2k @ 1 i believe and they were seeing some power! i was thanking rise would be a killer.. but they do have little cone area and box looked a little big also.. those are factors
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One amp is better in mine opinion.less stuff for somthing to go wrong.but thats just my 2 cents
that has some truth cause u wanna match power/gains and filters on the amps so there is no cancellation.. i thank u talked me into a 5k lol..
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ill have a AQ2200D at .7 on a XL 18"
if i had a level 5 id be throwin a DC 3.5k at it but i may put a 3.5k on my XL in the future
what do u clamp with that xl on the aq2200 cause im gettin 2 xls and thanking about aq2200s strapped @ 1
havent clamped it yet and im still awaiting the XL from DC
ill clamp it when i get the sub and let everyone know
but that would be a good setup just make sure you have the electrical to back up the .5 ohm load on each amp
ya i kno.. yellow top underhood, 250a alt, 2 or 3 xs3100 w/(buss bars), big 3, 2 runs + and -, these are my plans.. so much money for all that but its gotta happen lol i thank that would be pretty solid even with 3.5ks
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a sd 12kd ok 2 15" lvl5
thats sick man.. do they love it or hate it? thats the question lol
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Here's how i see it.
Assuming you are strapping the 2 2ks you have 4000 at 2 ohms. That's before rise.
With the 5k you have 5000 at 1. Wiring to .5 even with decent rise I'm sure you will get over 4000 once its all said and done since the 5k clamped over 5600@1
true but the 2k do more than 2k and plan was strpping to 1ohm (.5ohm each) and hopefully dont rise past 2.5 (1.25 each) i would see 4k.. dc 5k at .5 ohm i would rise somewhere around 2ohm?? meaning like 3-3.5kw.. i like both ideas cause i kno ill end up with 4 xl 18s before long lol.. and 2 5ks or 2 7.5ks would be nice.. so i guess gettin 5k now ill already to set up for the upgrade build.. but my buddy can sell his ab500.1 to me for i thank 800 he said
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ill have a AQ2200D at .7 on a XL 18"
if i had a level 5 id be throwin a DC 3.5k at it but i may put a 3.5k on my XL in the future
what do u clamp with that xl on the aq2200 cause im gettin 2 xls and thanking about aq2200s strapped @ 1
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either amp will do over rated power if you have the right electrical setup. just do a DC5k bro and save ya time searching around for a good amp.
i know they are rated pretty conservatively.. why do ppl tell me to get the 5k? ill probably see less power with it.. i see you have xls and a 5k? what are u clamping? explain your build.. def interested
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2 lvl 5 dc 12"s d4 and a 5k dc amp thanks in advance.
2 xl 18s too 45863 thanks
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Xls have lvl 5 parts already.
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2 3.5k's or 1 7.5k =]
7.5k @ .5 ohm would be badass
yes definately a 7.5k or 2 3.5k's would be perfect matches.. but if u dont kno what your doing then just a 5k would be good for you.. whatever u get its going to slap either way.. keep bass boost on 0!! and oscope if possible
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hence why i said build over the wheel wells.
I went tight to the passenger side wheel well, and came over the driver side well 3 or 4 inches. however that extra room I gained, I lost due to making the same notch on the other side of the box to keep each chambers idenical.
thats a nice ass box!
why the extra peice on the inside of the port wall?
tht is nice shit dude.. im digging it lol.. that looks amaizng bro.. i got a buddy that builds boxes for a living for his own side job.. he got a wall of 4 xl 15s
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i'd say 4.5 net is the absolute min for 3 12's. better off around 5 cubes net with that power though.
you think i should go with the 3's then.?
what is your minimum load on the amp? you might want to factor that in as well... 3 dvc have odd final ohm load...
im not sure, im not trying and keep it for long anyways. i plan on getting the aq 2200.
oh and the final ohm load for the 3 would be 1.34
u might wanna get dual 2s cause it would be .67ohm b4 rise.. so u can see some more power..
how many times do I have to say this? Stop giving advice. Are you going to pay for him to get a new amp because he took your advice and caused a smoke show? You might be the worst person on here to take advice from.
first time anybody has said something to me.. if u kno wat your doing there isnt a problem.. and wiring .67 isnt a problem at all with a dc or aq amp.. i see where your gettin to thou and he probably is a noob.. i usually tell ppl what i would do not considering if they have exsperience or not..
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i'd say 4.5 net is the absolute min for 3 12's. better off around 5 cubes net with that power though.
you think i should go with the 3's then.?
what is your minimum load on the amp? you might want to factor that in as well... 3 dvc have odd final ohm load...
im not sure, im not trying and keep it for long anyways. i plan on getting the aq 2200.
oh and the final ohm load for the 3 would be 1.34
u might wanna get dual 2s cause it would be .67ohm b4 rise.. so u can see some more power..
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I was on Techforces website and seen there where subs made by dc audio. Im kinda interested in the 2,000 rms rated TFS 18". Whats it compare to a level 5 or level 4 xl?
Im blind haha it says its modeled from a lvl 4 xl Hybrid. What would give it the 2,000 rms rating or is that a typo?
Im guessing its just a xl with level 5 softparts
xl's already have the same softparts as a lvl 5.. there ONLY difference is lvl 5 has a bigger motor..
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does anybody have videos of these amps being bench tested? or clamped in your set ups?
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build around and above the wheel wells and you can get a lot more space. I just built a box for a pair of 18s in a blazer. came out really nice!
iv thought about it.. i really dont like that idea thou.. cause it would be weirdly shaped and less of a square or rectangle shape.. and more acoustic resistence inside box verses square or rectangle shape.. ill make the box tall and in between wheel wells with slot port firing at hatch or wall it
its a hard decision.. well crap wheel wells are only 38in between i cant fit 2 18s across they would have to be offset cause box thickness is a factor as well.. ill have to build over wells just enough to fit them across. hell idk wall sounds like better plan now!! -
dc5k an option?
no i would love to have that sexy beast but its pricier and 2 amps fight rise better than one = more power.. since im strapping at 1ohm ill rise to around 2-3 hopefully and see rated power from amps or more.. and wiring the 5k to .5 would rise me to around 1.5-2.5 meaning probably 3k verses 4k+ from the 2 amps.. i would like them to see 6k thou
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i use http://www.the12volt.com/caraudio/boxcalcs.asp
u would need to subtract .5 cube for the sub displacements & also subtract port & bracing displacements.
what vehicle is this going in? do u know ur max dimensions?
blazer.. i believe its max width is 38in between wheel wells and 30in from back of rear seat and hatch but rear seat is comin out for amp/battery rack
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i wanna have some input on wheather to get 2 dc 2ks or 2 aq2200's to power 2 xl 18s.. which will give me more power? cause dc amps seem more efficient and still have same fuse rating.. plan is to strap them @ 1ohm or just run one amp per sub @ .5ohm.. pricing on these amps are very similar also..
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i need to find an enclosure tuning calculator.. for 2 xl 18s tuning 32hz and 12cubes.. something where i can put in all the values and displacments from baffle to driver dislacements and everything.. i wanna build this right.. thanks
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Hairtrick with 2 DC LVL 3 15's?
in DC Sound Lab - Big Bass on ANOTHER LEVEL!
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Theres to many variables to determine wether u can or not.. It depends on your enclosure and power.. If anything it wont be much of a hairtrick just moving it a little.. Tune low.. And they will be a night and day difference from ur jl's specially if u make a good box