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Really excited, going to replace my massive audio component set the second they are released lol
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yup each will be in seperate box running off the opti both are pretty much rated the same 600w x 4s
SA-12d4 and 12 W6d4
I'm gonna be honest here, the "600RMS" rating on the SA12s.. is almost detrimental to the function of the woofer, 600 watts is about half of what they should be rated, and what should be put on them. (provided your not sending a distorted signal)
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Clip indicators are annoying and for the most part, inaccurate.
This^^^^.
Also when you say SD amps I think of soundigital. SA is what people use to abreviate Sundown audio
Edited cuz your totally right about SD lol..
But I tune for every song, and get close to the clipping point, but im sure im over on most songs.. I know the lights arnt perfect, but they give you a rough estimate
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I set my gain on the amp with the remote @ 1/2 way so on lower volumes i could turn the gain up a bit. But as soon as i see the light flash i can smeel coils LOL. but my subs take the abuse ( I think). I also cross checked my DD-1 to my gain light and it was close! the light actually came on before. So i also tend to go by the remote when i am in doubt if the song is clipped.
Nice
That's what I wish I could do... well if I had a light hahahaI can't ever smell my coils, just wrecks my woofer suspension
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Clipping lights aren't accurate, as Decaf said himself they are set to light up "clip" off of rail voltage ( whatever that is ). What i have found out for myself on my AQ 2200D when my voltage drops below 13.5 the light goes off. If the voltage stays up i can go higher on gain. I tuned with the DD-1 so they are set. Those lights aren't accurate don''t rely on them. Find Decafs post where he says thais ^.
It kinda sucks, I adjust my gain at the start of every song, I can feel (and hear of coarse) when the amp gets into the power phase of the DB level. But I can turn the gain knob up more and still get huge output increases, even though its distorted
But having the subs in the trunk makes the distortion hard to hear. -
So I guess this question is directed at Jacob mostly, I love, LOVE SA amps, style, support, and doing way over rated cleanly. But there is a feature that I and many MANY others would love to see. That's a clipping indicator light on the gain remotes for the amps.. I'll be honest i'm not sure how much of a complex feature this is to integrate, but it would be such a huge help... Do you have any plans to add this? I was really hoping to see it on the 2012 refresh, and grab a 2500V.2 or a 3500v.2.. But it appears that my hopes are crushed
Just wanted to add this, I know the lights arnt perfect, but setting to a single DB level and playing different types of music isn't perfect either... The least retarded option is a clipping light..
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are gain remotes interchangable with amps? Because I would like to get a DC remote and use with what ever 2k I go with.
this was a huge selling point to mevolume down when your playing ur clipped music. This would be the same if you used an o-scope you cant do real time distortion on different songs and constantly adjust gain perfectly so just turn your volume down a couple clicks
This is where DC Amps shine, clipping light on the gain remote, most useful invention.... ever
audioque (soundqubed), DD both have clipping indicators on remote gain knobs as well
The clipping indecator feature is something that must be built into the amp itself.. Sadly you can just buy a remote with a clipping light and have that feature
I wasn't aware DD amps had this.. Really raises the questions why SD amps don't :\
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watch what you play. just cause you set your amps up with a piece of equipment, doesn't mean that you still aren't supposed to be careful. if you're that worried, use the 0db tone. or just keep the knob at 3/4 or something if you play dj billy e
Clipping doesn't worry me, i'v clipped the crap out of the woofers I have now and i'm fine with that.. The problem I see is people who use the DD1 then blow something not paying attention.. :\
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volume down when your playing ur clipped music. This would be the same if you used an o-scope you cant do real time distortion on different songs and constantly adjust gain perfectly so just turn your volume down a couple clicks
This is where DC Amps shine, clipping light on the gain remote, most useful invention.... ever
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The DD1 is a great tool, but here is the question I have.. The test track is at -5DB, now thats fine and dandy, but the problem comes in when the majority of music has different bass DB levels.. Its still VERY ease to clip your amp and wreck some woofers even with a properly tuned system if you play a song with a higher DB level then the system was tuned for. Here is an example, i'm tuned for -5DB (perfect for decaf stuff) But if ANY song by bill-e comes on -3DB ~ 0DB bass lines, you're clipping hard. Even some rap has -3DB ~ -2DB bass tracks. (Project Pat does this more often then not) On the other side of the spectrum you get songs with great bass lines that are below the -5DB, (-7 ~ -8DB) and your amp isn't doing near normal output. Basically this has left be to tune each song as it comes on, I have a Sundown amp so I don't have a clipping light on my remote so I know i'm clipping a little.. I just wish there was a simple answer to all this
Any ideas??Thanks!!
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I own a V1 with SAZ-1500D painted on the top and bottom, the key external difference is the fusing. If it has fuses its a V1 if not, its a V2. They are really efficient clean amps, considering strapping them?
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Thinking about running 2 Zv.3 12's.. I love how the motor is almost as big as the basket on the 12.. Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside
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What kind of space do you want to be taken up by the 8s? Also the SD series is a shallow mount so you could grab SD8's and maybe find custom made (sealed) boxes that can take the place of the side panels in the trunk. The SA series is a good combo of SQ and SPL IMHO, I own two SA12's that sound very nice.
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I know its very unlikely that someone will sell there DD1. But I thought I should post this anyway, if you have one your willing to part with please leave a reply or a PM with pricing. Thank you very much!
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I'd just use one 3500D for simplicity.
True.. I'm sure you can't tell me this, but how much more efficient will the 2012 3500D model be? I'm guessing that it will be made from scaled down NS1 parts for higher efficiency but will there be a substantial difference?
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I have talked about this a little before, the SPL coils can take a tun of power. A single 1500D (current setup) doesn't even reach recommended RMS for the pair I have. So, should I go for a second saz 1500 or should I just sell the one I have and buy a 3500D (when the 2012 models come out) I have D4 Coils in the subs so my strapped wiring options will take the amps out of warranty (1ohm total .5 each) But because they are v.1 models if they blow I would need to pay to have them repaired anyway. Even if I build a nice battery bank... Would I need a HO alt for 2 1500s? What do you think?
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Thinking about an RF R500 PRIME at 2ohm
http://www.ebay.com/...#ht_2298wt_1023
Or an Alpine MRX-M50
thoughts?
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E series comes in both D2 and D4 you could also look into the SD line which is for limited space but it's a lil bit more $
Hm so they do, on sundownz website they only list D2 specs, also I found the feet 3^. Just need good amp ideas
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My brother owns an S10 Extended cab, (not quad cab) so hes got a very limited space to work with. Could anyone give me ported / sealed box 3^? Luckily for me he already hates cheap *** brands (specifically boss audio) because he knows they are trash. Anyone know a ~100-150 dollar amp that will do clean 400 ~ 500 RMS (not over rated) at 1ohm or 4ohm? E series only comes in D2s. If you have any suggestions its greatly appreciated! Thanks!
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They have an SPL coil -- and they came from Team Nemesis Robert's Excursion -- he made his own stickers for that sais SA-12X
wow no way, I have a pair in a 34Hz tuned box, the box was made for the copper coil cone. Does the SPL coil change the sub enough to make a re-cone or re-tune necessary? btw Thanks for that info Jacob
The SPL coil is about half the mass -- so it raises FS a good bit.
Are the specs for the SPL coils posted anywhere? Id like to know the FS so I can get tune inserts that are dead on.. btw thanks a lot Jacob
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I would run NS-1 on nightshade v3 @ 1 ohm
But like CJ said, electrical first
you really think the v.3 could take 7K RMS?... somehow.. that feels like a bad idea
SA 15 took over 6k on few burps
nightshade will take it, I assume, if you put in in the right now and have a great electrical support.....not 2 d3400
But 7kw for daily..(personally I wouldn't do it) and the 2 D34s are if i run 4ohm, if I wire for 2, its going to be 4 d34s (maybe 2 alts) and if..for some reason I ever.. EVER drop to 1ohm.. 8 D34s, and at least 3 200+ amp mech alts.. The NS1 prototype pulled 600 AMPS at 1ohm. While it is the most efficient amp I have ever seen. It can pull a crap load of amperage
Then what's the point of getting NS-1?
Yeah, but I know what i'm getting into if I drop that low
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I would run NS-1 on nightshade v3 @ 1 ohm
But like CJ said, electrical first
you really think the v.3 could take 7K RMS?... somehow.. that feels like a bad idea
SA 15 took over 6k on few burps
nightshade will take it, I assume, if you put in in the right now and have a great electrical support.....not 2 d3400
But 7kw for daily..(personally I wouldn't do it) and the 2 D34s are if i run 4ohm, if I wire for 2, its going to be 4 d34s (maybe 2 alts) and if..for some reason I ever.. EVER drop to 1ohm.. 8 D34s, and at least 3 200+ amp mech alts.. The NS1 prototype pulled 600 AMPS at 1ohm. While it is the most efficient amp I have ever seen. It can pull a crap load of amperage.......My wallet hopes I never go to 1ohm.... or .5 (sweet jeebus)
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I do understand that, but if you are going to do it, do it right. Electrical first and then big ass amp. Dont be the guy that wants to run a 7500w+ amp on stock alt and a couple of walmart batteries.
I completely agree, i'm planning for 2 XS D3400 and a mech alt
at 4ohm thats more than enough
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I would run NS-1 on nightshade v3 @ 1 ohm
But like CJ said, electrical first
you really think the v.3 could take 7K RMS?... somehow.. that feels like a bad idea
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That's what I wish I could do... well if I had a light hahaha
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Wait wait wait wait will the 2500Dv.2 have it as well? O_O I was under the impression the new amp line didnt have the clipping light. Im crazy happy right now. ( saves woofers from dirty songs)