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You bought a very very nice amp and dont even know the specs of it?? http://www.dcsoundlab.com/5k.html scroll down. the website lists them . . .Well that's what I'm wondering, if there's a way to look at the amp specs or the watts and figure out how much you will need. The amp in question is a DC 5.0k
they even give you a recomendation of what you should run!!! common man
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not clean power. decided to go with DC audioHifoncs BRZ 1200.1D like new in box with warranty $130 + shipping
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ill check it all tomorrow
im running at 2ohms so most i should be getting clean is about 600rms. and skar are known to be underrated as well. .. not sayin ur wrong jbut just notin the fact.i have a kenwood, same settings as you, 35 of 35, not distortion. i set my shit with -5 db, and let it ride. If you set it with the dd-1 on track 5 or -10 and shit is bottoming out, set it with -5, the wave of the song might not be clipped but may have a higher amplitude than you think which might be causing the sub to bottom out or get to much power.
also, as an example, if you have a 2000 wrms amp, on a 1000rms sub and you set it with the dd-1 and it bottoms out, it is probably due to the double rms, not clipping and so on. that skar is 600rms and that amp tested by ray does around 1000-1100 iirc. That is called overpowering. Plus we dont know box specs or anything like that. I would set the EQ flat, do track 3 (-5 @ 40) and see how it is. If it bottoms out, turn it down, if it doesnt good for you. You need to see what amplitude the wave on that song is for whatever frequency. Unclipped -3db wave will still bottom your shit out if you have it set with -10db.
yea, just test to see if the HU clips at +15, if it doesnt, just use it like that.
the model i have that clips at +1 sub volume is KDC X595.
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no no i know that lol. i quoted someone from earlier. who said i am overpowering my sub and that could be why. i said no because ray clamped clean at 1100 at 1 ohm. im running at 2 ohms. meaning the sub is only prob getting 600rms clean. . .the amp is rater 1500 1 ohm and 900 2 ohms so if its clean 1100 at 1 i assumed somewhere arnoudn 600ish clean at 2 ohms..... ruling out that its prob not overpowering issues......Ohms has NOTHING to do with clean or dirty signal. Input voltage and gain level has everything to do with clean dirty. It's all about matching gain level from HU and amp.
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gotcha, . . . . so on another note for a second. how can ou get you ipod to play all songs at same volume, theres a fthing that doe that right? that way you can set with say -10 db and should be fine on everything, instead of just some, yeah?
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mario what did you mean by set ur amp at -5? and specs are in first post. Kenwood KDC - 352U
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im running at 2ohms so most i should be getting clean is about 600rms. and skar are known to be underrated as well. .. not sayin ur wrong jbut just notin the fact.i have a kenwood, same settings as you, 35 of 35, not distortion. i set my shit with -5 db, and let it ride. If you set it with the dd-1 on track 5 or -10 and shit is bottoming out, set it with -5, the wave of the song might not be clipped but may have a higher amplitude than you think which might be causing the sub to bottom out or get to much power.
also, as an example, if you have a 2000 wrms amp, on a 1000rms sub and you set it with the dd-1 and it bottoms out, it is probably due to the double rms, not clipping and so on. that skar is 600rms and that amp tested by ray does around 1000-1100 iirc. That is called overpowering. Plus we dont know box specs or anything like that. I would set the EQ flat, do track 3 (-5 @ 40) and see how it is. If it bottoms out, turn it down, if it doesnt good for you. You need to see what amplitude the wave on that song is for whatever frequency. Unclipped -3db wave will still bottom your shit out if you have it set with -10db.
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being a kenwood owner, even though im gonna test this tomorrow, should i turn sub to 15 and then dd1 the HU? as kranny somewhat said earlier...Every head unit is different. My head unit is in my sig and it goes up to 30 out of 35 with everything set to 0 except sub level 15.
Bass - 0
Mid - 0
Treble - 0
Sub Volume - 15
HPF 120hz, (only effects door speakers)
LPF set on my amp using cc-1
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i know that yes. i set the gain then listened. and restarted with diff settings. . . it seems a hair louder, and i went past 30 and i didnt hear the distortion like i was saying earlier. tomrrow im going to try and investigate some more. i have work earlier so bed for me. i have a db meter. its not accurate, but as far as playing a freq at diff volumes itll tell me whats louder and whatnot so ill break that out. heres what im going to try.you know you're not supposed to have your sub hooked up while tuning the gains right?
hu vol 35 sub +1
hu vol 30 sub +11
hu vol (?) sub +15 <- not sure what loudest clean is but ignoring mids and highs just gonna see if it yields louder.
might even do another with sub at 5 or 7.
also, is it bad to turn the eq down? like bass -5 or something?? then i can boost the sub volume, or does it not work pretty like that?
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IDK i havent set amp gains yet. ill go set gains sub and +1 and volume 35. listen with a track. and then change sub volume to 11 and deck to 30, set gains. same song. and give er a listen. be back in 15min. gotta go find parking lot lol. . . . ill also play the 40hz tone i use to setthe gain. that way its perfect signalok..well is that louder then how you had it? if so leave it on that
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at volume 30. sub volume goes to 11 clean. 13 distort. . .
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in my car. eq all at 0 and i can turn it up all the way with no dis. but. whe i turn my sub volume up, i can only go to +1 (goes +1 +3 and so one skips 2.) so +3 at 35 volume it distorts
its not bass boost. and all full volume its clean to +1. +3 is distortion. . . so should i turn down volume, and boost sub volume?
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my sub. mids and highs sound shitty, but you can cleary hear the sub difference, and it loses loudness as well
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bottoming out maybe? idk the exact term but you can hear uglyness lolThe DD-1 can 'hear' clipping, your ears can not.
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i meant when i dont. when i do use it and i leave a little room for clipping, the second i turn it up, you can hear it distortsecond to last line...'it seems to get louder and not distort as much as when i use the DD1'
yeah umm....how do you know this? if you don't use the DD1, then you don't know you're not distorting. if you use the DD1, you'll be set at the point right before clipping, given you're playing a properly recorded song. anything higher and it's distortion city
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Current Setup
1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee
HU Kenwood KDC - 352U
Concept HPN - 1500
Skar VVX 15 D4
Custom Box Tuned to ~32Hz
Cadence 4 Gauge Power and Ground Wire
Stock speakers, big 3 is NOT done
Problem
It seems that when i use the DD1 properly (To my knowledge) It hurts the SPL in my car. When i tune everything by ear, give or take, it seems to get louder. Plain and simple.
HU settings for DD1
Bass - 0
Mid - 0
Treble - 0
Sub Volume - 0 (goes -15 to +15 so 0 is the middle)
HPF 150hz, (only effects door speakers)
LPF set to trough because i just use the one on my mono amp
After trial and error, i turned my EQ to
Bass -8
Mid - -8
Treble +1
By doing so, i turned my Sub volume up to +7 to make up for the loss in bass (still volume 35 undistorted)
Steps i did for the DD1
Plugged RCAs into it from the HU (sub out)
Played 40Hz at 0db provided by SMD online via Ipod USB, also did with the CD on same HU settings and with both, achieved full volume of 35 with no distortion.
I Proceeded and did the amp as i'm supposed to (not listen it lol its strait from directions.
I used track 5, the middle db of 3 and 7
No matter what i seem to do some songs still clip and my sub bottoms (i think thats the term i want) this is pro due to what the song was recorded at as i know its clean. . .
So my problem is that after all this, if i go through and tune everything by ear, still used 35 and max volume, i seems to get it louder and not distort as much as when i use the DD1
i think i described everything well enough, sorry if i repeated or over did it but looking for any explanations, ideas, input. thanks guys
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Level 4 18 D2 to 03106, and Level 3 18 D2 to 03106
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well if i get a 3sixty.3 i can split my fronts so i have 4 rcas. o into the 360, and the outs will be to tweets, 4's, 6.5's and subs. and in the program, i can control each speaker and min and max freq. . . . then i need a mono amp, a 4 channel, and 2 channel. this leaves out my back doors. so after the 360, i can split the 6.5 and tweets signals and run them to the back doors with their own 4 channel.
summary lol and front and rear arent in perspective of the car, their just a name if that makes sense
HU 3 rcas... front split so i have front1, front2, rear, sub
360.3 and all EQs set with that
360.3 outs will be front1 (tweets), front2 (4's), rear (6.5s), sub, (subs lol)
lastly split the front1 and rear for the rear doors
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right but as said ealier that wouldnt be active right?meaning i kinda have to trust the crossover for the spesakers, as its set in stone
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I guess you could have 2 4 channels. one for the front 6.5s and 4's and the other for rear 6.5s and tweets and then a 2 channel for the front tweets. oooorrrrrr you could do 2 4 channels, and put the rear speakers (6.5s and tweets) together
and seeing as any deck only has 3 rca outs. then obv i need a processor, so where would i go from my HU?
p.s. sorry this thread is kinda turning into a help me with my setup lol
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Because I'd like a sealed and ported box. . . was thinking of doing s stealth something idk. . . and what TRT saidi dont understand y u would put a 10 or a 12 and a 15 in? your gonna be able to see both the subs so y not just put a 15 in and cut it down, then when you need your doubter button just turn it up lol.
And ok active, i way over analized that lol, so the 6.5 has a channel, the 4 has one, and the tweet has one? correct. . . .and can you go into detail about the rear fill?
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3 way as in a 6.5", 2.5(ish), and a tweet right? and spacing it, active setup? whats that. . . heard it, knew it, forgot it lol
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I'm sure this has been talked about before but i had an epiphany just now. I really want a SQ car. I have a 99 Jeep Grand Cherokee and running about 600rms and a single 15. I'd like a loud (not spl loud) and crystal clear car for metal,rap,country,blues,jazz,techno, anything! Just a strait up SQ Jeep. Keep in mind I am only 18 and i'm not talking 5k focal shit and all that but you know, the standard works. Anyways, the only thing that isn't settling well is getting that occasional person, that says " My friends got two 12" Kickers and his slams way harder than this! " When indeed my car wouldn't be made to slam, but sound great (which a lot of people don't care about obviously) So. . .Finally, How about having a set up kind of like this?
2 sets of 6.5" Components, 60-100rms each speaker and tweeter with an external crossover
1 10 or 12" sub, sealed and 200-400rms
1 nice 4 channel and mono amp, maybe even a 5 channel
1 15 or 18" sub, ported at let's say 35Hz and aprox 1500rms
and the key to it all, a switch in the remote lead for the big mono, so when you get that doubter, they'll have 1500 of some slamming bass coming very soon
Big 3 will be done, a D6500 under the hood, and probably 1 D3100 in the rear
THOUGHTS?? and I am a noob to a lot of things so feel free to give advice, this is an in moment thought haha
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This is from mechman (i selected 04ish tahoe) 270 amp alt so prob what you have. . .
Product Description
The Extreme Service high output alternator by MechMan offers outstanding low and midrange output with excellent durability for daily driven and industrial vehicles. With a standard 7" crank pulley, it produces 165 amps by 700 rpm and achieves full output by 1700 rpm. This unit features:
so at 700 which is give or take idle your only getting about 165. . . your car with no bass uses a good chunk of thatso like everyone else said rev er up a bit. . .and acc to mechman 1700 is about full amps (:
How much power do I need?
in Electrical-battery- Alternators- Wiring
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