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  3. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

    Posted · Edited by 03 Xtreme Fosgate

    Latest DB-R post------

    I read the thread over at SMD. Have this to say, now that I have cooled off a little bit about people attacking me over this thing and my repair warranty policy regarding it's use/mis-use.

    The failures that customers had relayed to me, were when they FIRST tried to use the DD-1 the problem happened. Not after months, years, blah blah. FIRST TIME.

    Did the DD-1 cause the problem or was it purely user error? I don't know, am not familiar with the DD-1 I do not own one. Am I saying you should not own one, NO, you can own one, most people reported good luck with them. Buy it if it makes you happy.

    Am I saying there is even a smidge of a chance that you could break your Sundown or other amp with the DD-1, YES. How, I do not know, don't follow the directions and that's what you get.

    Send it to us for repair, get it back, do the same thing to the amp again and expect us to warranty it, NO. Make sure you are using the thing according to the instructions. We won't fix your amp over and over again for free if we think it's something you are doing to cause the problem. That is ANY repair shop, not just this one. We don't work for free.

    Do I own a DD-1? NO.

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  4. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

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    If it has a ground wire with a clip I bet they put it in the wrong place or it touched something it shouldn't have while it was live. Probably nothing wrong with the thing, but from MY POINT OF VIEW if they broke it by using the thing they are likely to break it again by using the thing (same way, incorrectly whatever the case may be) and it's fully my prerogative to NOT warranty it if I don't want to. They can get mad, IDGAF.

    So did he just say that it's most likely not the DD-1's fault, but instead it's the user's fault? I think that's the first time he's said that

    that's what it sounds like to me but he can't seem to make up his mind on what he thinks.. All I know is from reading his comments I'm glad I don't have any products that they would have to service bcus that's bad for business when you talk to/about people like he was. I can't deny that I antagonized him some but I mean really dude,going to blame someone's mistake on the DD-1 and respond to comments like that,that's just shitty representation of the company..not good for Sundown either.

  5. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

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    Just read 9 pages of this thread, and the entire thread on CACO.

    I do not respect DB-R in the least bit any more. That is not how you conduct business on a public forum, where potential customers are reading you're posts bickering back and forth with other members and tossing insults in there as well. Grow the fuck up. This is not 5th grade where your mom did this and my dad will do that if you do x. This is a legitimate problem with a person who apparently wants to blame a product that is not causing any issues for 99% of the people who use it CORRECTLY. If that 1% uses it wrong and does happen to touch the amp case with the positive wire well then tough shit. That is what you get for being careless.

    I feel that all he has done is make his company look like it is run by children, he is attempting to hurt Steve's reputation, and he is also hurting Sundown in the process which will in turn hurt his own sales of their amps.

    Where the fuck did this guy learn to run a business?

    that's pretty much what I told him in one of my comments

  6. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

    Posted · Edited by 03 Xtreme Fosgate

    This is Jacob's reply on it,I'm not familiar with him I'm guessing he's with Sundown... "It seems this thread is being misunderstood.

    Our warranty has nothing to do with the dB-R repair warranty. Chris is talking for himself about his amp repair warranty.

    We are not dB-R and dB-R is not us -- dB-R is a company we use to repair our amps; they are a dealer for us; and they also sell refurbs of our products (that are covered by their warranty as well).

    I imagine that a failure caused by using a DD-1 would likely have to be related to a usage issue; possibly the probe touching the amp output and the case at the same time or something to that effect. I haven't seen the failure myself to know for sure, though."

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  9. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

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    I'm always impressed with how Steve conducts himself, willing to prove his point and that his product is great!

    Good work man!

    i have proved over and over and over that it's great. There is countless video's out there showing the DD-1 side by side with the most expensive scopes you can buy and its perfect every time. You guys don't know how many people tell me "ya i actually bought one and DID put it next to my scope just to see and you are right, it is dead on".

    so even other people have verified for themselves. I have not had one single person email me and say "i bought a DD-1 and my amp fried as soon as i touched it". Not A SINGLE ONE. I have sold over 3,000 units and not a single amp was ever reported damaged to me. That fucking loser who claims he blew 5 amps from it, don't you think he woulda emailed me or called me bitching? i know i would, i know you would. Its all bullshit.

    After reading the comments in that forum it's my understanding that it's not happening immediately,it's later on down the road so I'm guessing days,weeks or months. But he doesn't mention anything about the fact that it could be the persons install methods,wiring,voltage,etc.

  11. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

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    every single amp i have ever used the DD-1 on from the Rockford CP series, to very VERY large DC audio (on 18v), to the cheapest crunch amps have not even shown a sign of a problem. This guy is a fucking douche and i wouldn't take my alarm clock to him for a repair after reading some of the bullshit he is spreading in that thread.

    here you go Steve,this was the words straight out of his mouth.. I didn't say the DD-1 was going to mess up ALL Sundown Amps, I said it may have messed up .0005% of them. And it could have been user error or something. The particular damage done, was ONLY DONE by users of DD-1's and/or people who touched the +12V wire to the case of the amp, about 50% of the cases, they said it happened right after they setup the amp with the DD-1. That's what I said.

    I am not going to spend a bunch of time figuring out why. If Steve Meade and Tony Damore want to know what it messed up, I will send them a pic. Will they know what they are looking at and figure out a possible cause. Not likely. It happens, don't know why, until I see more of it happening, not going to bother to "get to the bottom of it".

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  12. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

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    no doubt about it guys, if you can get a hold of the two that didn't match, send them in, i will pay shipping both ways. Just send it i can paypal you the $10 bucks or whatever it is. Please CLEARLY mark your name, address and issue and leave it in a note or something on the inside so i can get it back to you right away.

    I have only seen that one other time and it was some guy with some crazy home/pro/something contraption hooked up and i don't believe he was using our test tones when it all came down to it. I think that is what happened.

    did you guys use a disc or did you download the tracks and burn them yourself? I just can't figure out how that can happen. I bet i could take serial # -2 (the original ORIGINAL proto) and put it up against a new unit. The only diff is the serial number negative 2 ate 9v batteries for lunch :D

    send those in if you can i am highly interested to see what, if anything, is going on.

    Hate to post on this thread again but this is what I'm taking about,that's some awesome CS right there. Makes me feel even better that I bought the DD-1/CC-1 combo for myself during the black Friday deal,I know I don't have anything to worry about if some problem arises with them. I'm not worried about that happening though,I use them as the manual says and never had a problem.

  13. not everyone likes the dd-1? some rude comments

    in SMD Distortion Detector (DD-1) Topics

    Posted

    I recently read that a well respected amp person said the DD-1 was in fact causing issues with amps.

    Don't know the validity of those posts since the person I saw post it want the amp person, but someone that had a conversation with him.

    there is another post now and db-r won't warranty amps they repair if a dd-1 is used on it after the fix.

    http://www.caraudioc...-set-gains.html

    DB-R is giving the DD-1 hell in that post,I'm in the middle of reading it now and I'm about to comment on it.Sounds to me like they have no idea what they're talking about and apparently the Sundown amps have a serious problem they need to look into. All I know is I've had no problems setting gains with the DD-1 on my RF amps,my friends hifonics, JBL, and Lanzar amps. I even set the RF P1000.1 amp that's in my mothers truck with a -15 tone and it's had no problems,doesn't even get warm when I listen to it and I listen a lot louder than she does,right at the HU distortion/clip limit. Glad I don't have a Sundown amp for sure bcus I'd hate to have to deal with the apparent dee dee dee's at DB-R..

  16. Introduce Yourself

    in Off Topic - Random, Misc posts - the forum "Junk Drawer"

    Posted

    Hi JJ I like your idea of crescendo pwx on a P500.2!

    Welcome to the coolest place on earth.

    Thanks man,I'm deciding whether to get a pair of the 6.5" or the 8". I know the 6.5's would be easier to add on my doors than the 8's but the midbass would be better from the 8's. Either way I'll have to get them fiberglassed in and I haven't done much fiberglassing but have a friend that has some experience with fiberglass. I think I've got enough highs to go with them already so I'm hoping this fill my sound stage perfectly.

  17. Introduce Yourself

    in Off Topic - Random, Misc posts - the forum "Junk Drawer"

    Posted · Edited by 03 Xtreme Fosgate

    Damian here, livin in the gold bearing foothills just east of Steve. Been a bass head since 1984. Yeah, almost 50 years old and I just cant stay away from this shit! My kids are almost deaf but thats okay lol....

    That's awesome man,I got my mother into car audio and she loves it. She's 56 and I installed my old setup of a RF P1000.1bd with 2 RF T1D412's in her Trail Blazer for her.always know when she's coming down the road.lol

  18. Introduce Yourself

    in Off Topic - Random, Misc posts - the forum "Junk Drawer"

    Posted · Edited by 03 Xtreme Fosgate

    I didn't introduce myself as I haven't even been in this sub-forum til now. My name is John but everyone calls me JJ, I've loved car audio for a long time but haven't been into it much til a few years ago,starting to really get in it and trying to learn as much as possible. I've done a few installs in my life but nothing big so I have some knowledge of what's going on. I've got a 2003 Chevy S10 Xtreme ext cab,I had a local audio shop do my install about 4-5 years ago,they built my box (built for T2's),installed Kenwood excelon HU,RF P400.4 on Boston Acoustics 6.5 & 4x6 mids/highs and RF punch tweets,a RF P1000.1bd on 2 RF T1D412's,added a 230 amp Stinger alt with the Big 3 later on and I put in a Optima YT battery that was bigger than what is supposed to go in it. I'm in the process of getting my audio parts stocked up for my big install coming up as soon as my truck gets out of body shop (custom ram air hood,sport mirrors,paint and bed liner) and I've got new headlight assemblies with HID going in with relay kit,LED corner bumper lights and LED tail light assemblies. I wish I would've done more research on car audio before I got my new stuff as I didn't know about XS Power,Skar,AA,DC,etc but I still think I'll have a decent setup for a daily driver. It's going to consist of 2 RF T2D412's on a RF T2500.1 bdcp,adding kick panels with a set of Boston SC60's to the mids/highs,running tweets and 4x6's on a P400.4,2 pairs of 6.5's on a P500.4,either 6.5 or 8" midbass drivers (not sure on which brand/type yet but maybe Crescendo PWX)on a P500.2 and going active with a RF 360.3,dual batteries with 2 runs each + & - of 1/0 Stinger/RF wire (OFC of course) So hello to everyone on SMD and any input on some midbass drivers would be appreciated.

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  24. Authorized Rockford Fosgate retailer???

    in Sonic Electronix - Great Selection Great Prices

    Posted

    I'm curious to know why the Sonic Electronix website says "authorized Rockford Fosgate dealer" but you're not on the RF.com list of dealers and they won't warranty any products bought from SE?? I now notice that I don't see that on RF products on your site but when I bought my T2500.1bdcp and two T2D412's back in October 2012 it said "Authorized RF dealer" in the product descriptions. And why aren't you a authorized RF dealer being that I'm sure you're selling quite a bit of their products? I know I've bought a lot of RF products already from SE and I'm sure I will be getting more,they have the best installation products in my opinion and quite possibly some of the best amplifiers on the market.

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