james- very true. people around my town dont know a damn thing about systems. the ones that think they do, dont even consider tuning freq., minimum space for their subs, etc.... the closest setup that is dec... is the kid drivin around with two 12" kicker l7's who is underpowering them both, in a under-sized box. so showing these ppl around my town a real system, would be pretty damn cool, and trust me, its needed. i want something that can kill those kickers. in the price range of what i said earlier. possible?