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  1. I really don't see how a triple joint is any better after a break in then fresh out of the box. It's not like the glue has to dry over the next 2 weeks. Nor does the spider have some built in memory you have to train to retain its shape. Breaking the triple joint is more to do with the box it's in, not how it was built.

    Sub companies want you to break in a sub for one reason. Buffer from a customer doing something stupid out of the box. Plain and simple. When people buy a new sub, chances are they have never dealt with that product before. So the likeliness you actually know its limitations out of the box is slim to none. If a sub manufacture asks you to break in a sub, it's because they want you to learn the limits of the product over the course of time, not to drop it in a box and throw the hammer down on it.

    People need to learn their products in the system as a whole and what the limits are, not believe that the product will somehow magically get stronger if you be nice with it at the start. It's a sub, you don't need to take it out to dinner and a movie first. take it no tell motel and give it a good pounding. Just don't expect to stick it in the pole piece if it wasn't designed to take it ;)

    The suspension is super stiff, the triple joint it the weak point so it breaks there if to much excursion is going on, now if it is looser, the suspension there is more give at the triple joint.

    Ok, so whats the context?

    Is it a bad design of product, or bad box design? One of these 2 can be controlled by the purchaser. Excursion is easily changed in the box design.

    I do understand in YOUR application, having a loose sub helped its longevity. HOWEVER, it's not always the case.

    Case n point: DC98HOE system was at its loudest just as the subs became loose. Which was about a day before they would blow. Out of the box play hard nor breaking them in @20z tone did anything to change this. The sooner he got to the loose part, the sooner he was ordering recones. Does this mean the sub was to blame? Nope, it has and will always have to do with box design.

    People, not product dictate the ends results in equipment

  2. I really don't see how a triple joint is any better after a break in then fresh out of the box. It's not like the glue has to dry over the next 2 weeks. Nor does the spider have some built in memory you have to train to retain its shape. Breaking the triple joint is more to do with the box it's in, not how it was built.

    Sub companies want you to break in a sub for one reason. Buffer from a customer doing something stupid out of the box. Plain and simple. When people buy a new sub, chances are they have never dealt with that product before. So the likeliness you actually know its limitations out of the box is slim to none. If a sub manufacture asks you to break in a sub, it's because they want you to learn the limits of the product over the course of time, not to drop it in a box and throw the hammer down on it.

    People need to learn their products in the system as a whole and what the limits are, not believe that the product will somehow magically get stronger if you be nice with it at the start. It's a sub, you don't need to take it out to dinner and a movie first. take it no tell motel and give it a good pounding. Just don't expect to stick it in the pole piece if it wasn't designed to take it ;)

  3. If a spider is going to rip, then it will rip regardless of how you play it before it rips. If a spider rips, or you tear a surround, or you bust a triple joint, or toast a tinsel lead, it is because YOU were doing something YOU weren't supposed to. OR something the sub wasn't designed to do.

    Subs are stupid. they do what you want them to. If you have them do something stupid, then bad results may follow.

  4. It will be difficult to set your xover settings based off an amp. Even with a CC-1, you are going to be limited in setting control as most amps have less then helpful xovers to begin with. I would open up the xover settings on the amp and let the deck control your points. Get a good clean signal, set your balance, then work on some points that sound good to YOUR ear.

  5. I run a Butler audio TBD 575 to mine. Its rated at 75 @ 4ohm. So on an 8 ohm driver, I'm easily seeing half of that at most. For my taste, the higher band is, the more they become harsh. They are a real efficient driver and can quickly become over powering to the system as a whole if not band passed. Even with as little power I have going to them, I have no issues with them keeping up with the spl side of the system

  6. Finally some one trying to stop the conflicts

    Im new to this so i dont know if its always like this

    Trophy and awards are cool i dindt win at upper lake but if you could help me to see if i got the points so i can start racking them up if not then ill just have to make sure for next comp i go to

    I wouldn't let the BS that sometimes rises on the business side of it reflect the fun had at shows. In all reality, none of this comes up face to face.

    If at any time you want to check on your points, then check over on Termpro. As it looks now, the results haven't been posted for the Lake County show.

    http://www.termpro.com/asp/officialevent.asp?EventID=12716&Method=1

    Keep an eye out and give it a little for the results to show up. If after another few weeks they are still not posted, then contact the judge hosting the show. If that doesn't get results, then contact the org directly. For the most part, results can take a bit to be posted.

  7. Shit talking behind peoples back is nothing new. Quite a few people do it and many more have over the years. You either deal with it, confront it, or just step back out of it all together. I myself got tired of what I heard come back around so I have found other things to do with my weekends.

    Hiding behind a fake screen name doesn't resolves any issues. All it does is stir the pot and creates yet another outlet to talk shit. If anyone wants to discuss the issues, and I'm sure if people are unhappy, then things need to be addressed, then it should be handled in a professorial setting.

    I for one would like to see peoples concerns addressed and resolved in a well spoken manner as this HOBBY used to be fun.

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