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  1. Check that modeling:

     

    Fi 4.11 18

     

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    Sundown Zv618:

     

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    Both based on a 7 cubic feet net @32Hz enclosure.

     

    The Fi has a 4 dB advantage over the Zv6 at their rated power and justifiably so since the Fi is a 4500W driver vs 2500W.

     

    Check out your fi parameters, I am sure you picked the 12" driver parameters instead of the 18".

     

    It is very easy to make a mistake with modeling software, so easy many people don't rely on modeling.

     

  2. I don't know that worst loses happen in glass windows, rather it occurs in large thin metallic parts like the roof of large vehicles or where ever you se flex happening, Any place you see flex happening you need to apply deadening.

     

    Anyways when you have a system level issue you need to post what is your full system components, your electrical (including wiring) and what is your vehicle, your box specs and a lot of pictures.

     

    Lastly a wall is not a box firing forward subs and ports, what a wall does is reducing the cabin size, increasing output significantly, a box specially in the middle of a cabin firing forward will probably do worse than a properly placed subs up / port back box.

  3. Two 12s on your space is possible but would need to look for another form factor, for simplicity here is your request 2x10 T1 subs:

     

    Assuming you have the trunk version of that vehicle aim subs and port back, (figure is just an assembly guide).

     

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    For an amp I would suggest you the pretty decent quality D4S JP23 amplifier, it is half bridge, does rated and has good THD figures for a class D amplifier it's  $299.

     

    You would wire coils in series and subs in parallel for a final load of 2 ohm.

     

    Also you may need alternator and battery upgrades for any  > 1K system.

     

     

  4. You can do 12s if you want and be much louder for the same power, as for the Rockford fosgate brand they are good but they are on the expensive side you can go for these instead in the 12 size:

     

    https://stereointegrity.com/product/sql-series/

     

    Anyways if you don't care for any of the above a  2x10s box is very doable on your max dimensions

     

    Pick an amp that matches or exceeds the subs power handling. just avoid full bridge amplifiers unless you plan for electrical upgrades.

  5. Just going by the subs manual for each subs you need 121  liters and 41,2 square inches of port area tuned to 30Hz

     

    So the box need to be 242 liters net and 82.4 square inches of port area at the same tuning.

     

    So how you get 82.4 square inches with 6" round ports, one 6" round port is 28.2 square inches and 3 are 84.2 almost exactly what is needed so:

     

    3 6" round ports is what is needed according to manufacturer specs based in a 242 liters box and rated power.

     

    Since you are overpowering you probably need more port area but at least you do need 3.

  6. The 3 way mode lets you have a fully active front stage, no rear fill and a sub channel and for that you need a 4 channel amp and a sub amp. Likely you use that mode for a sound quality application.

     

    Or you can choose two front channels, two rear channels and a sub channel to have the functions you like,  you also need 4 channel amp and a sub amp.

     

    In the rare case you wanted a fully active front stage and a fully active rear fill you would need a couple of active 2 channel crossovers OR a multichannel DSP and two 4 channel amplifiers and a sub amp, you can use all the functions of your head unit and stay fully active BUT that is a lot of equipment to install. I don't know anyone running their system this way but it's possible.

  7. The subsonic (high pass) is generally 4th order not 2nd order filter in most amps so it will need to be set higher to better control excursion, also, WinISD doesn't account for cabin gain so your frequency response just show how the box will play outdoors. But you can still compare your plot with a 4.75 net box tuned to 29Hz  (the prefab) to see how much are you expected to gain, that actually is useful information you might be interested in.

     

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  8. With that sub the DC resistance is given per coil and BL is given for coils wired in parallel so Re = 1.6 ohm.

     

    What is more serious is that they don't provide Xmax which limits your ability to predict maximum power for your situation and where to set your subsonic filter.

     

    The parameters you are going to use are the only ones you need to have, the others are not necessary, manufacturers usually will give parameters measured with coils wired in series, if you need to wire in parallel you need to divide Re/4 and recalculate BL through the program, you will get a lower BL value.

     

    If you need to measure parameters bear in mind that new subs need to be broken in before any measurements take place or the parameters you get are no good for box designing.

  9. Depens on what you mean by "together"  but if I imagine right you would have a parallel tuned 6th order bandpass, still that would be useless because in such enclosures the chamber sizes are of different sizes, port area and port tuning of each port are vastly different, in other words that wouldn't work at all.

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  10. i am going to guess you have the ZVX 18v2, the prefab box is almost the size of the suggested box, only the port area is a little low on the prefab but not low enough to be of concern if you are just playing music, here is the difference between prefab (yellow plot) and the suggested spec (red plot) in frequency response:

     

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    Recommended : use the box sub / port up reverse mounting the sub to see any improvement in performance, Prefab with low port area but performance hit to rated power seems low, only marginal improvements from a rebuild to recommended specs.

     

     

  11. You are running 1300W of power in your audio, no need for any other electrical upgrades if just playing music, No need to be checking your voltage unless something in your car is not working properly, the amps will work just fine in the 12-14V range no problem.

     

    If you are just curious as to why the voltage is being regulated the way it does, just have your electrical checked and then ask your concerns, to me, if your car works fine and your audio works fine I would just leave it alone.

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  12. A D2 sub can only be wired to 4 or 1 ohm so my suggestion is to get an amp that is one ohm stable delivering at least 1200W RMS such as:

     

    https://nvx.com/products/xad12-1500w-rms-x-series-full-bridge-class-d-1-ohm-stable-monoblock-amplifier

     

    Also when running more than 1kw of power is necessary to check your electrical to be able to support the load and if so check that it is in good condition, more so if you intend to run full bridge amps such as these NVX.

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