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It's possible.

Just about ANYTHING is possible. (just about)

Assuming: YOU know how to build an enclosure @ all (not saying you can't but there are people that assume it's a lot easier than it is), and assuming you have a sound understanding of what it takes to make a "loud enclosure" (to the ear/mic) either you or your friend has a chance in this bet. You could build an awsome wood box and he could just glue a baffle in that bucket and you would make him look pretty silly and take his $5.

On the other hand, Tube style boxes ahve been used, and used WELL some in HIGH output setups like That pioneer truck mentioned, as well as in prefab subwoofer tubes sold all over. The key in either design....is DESIGN and knowing what's up w/ how a box works or doesn't work. If you limit ur buddy to only modifying the INSIDE of the bucket, everything he does to brace it will cut into his airspace. If he can maintain his airspace by modding the outside of the bucket and reinforce it that way he may have a shot.

To say "what will win" is another one of those "what would be louder: a 12 or a 15?" type Q's that has no answer since there are WAAY too many variables involved. W/ out even seeing your/his finished product any "guessing" by "pro's" isn't gonna get you any closer to knowing. So just go build ur setup and take pix. @ best, the nice folks on here (SMD) might help w/ YOUR design so it'll be as loud as possible and just hope ur buddy 1:Doesn't do the same 2: Have Steve,Ray, or GroundPounder build HIS setup, 3: know more than you about makin a LOUD box.

(My attempt to say what needed w/ out being a total A-HOLE)

~2cents

COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly.

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like he^ said, just a 5gal bucket aint gunna cut it for sound quality or highoutput, u gotta reinforce the bottom n sides cause as thin as they are there gunna vibrate n f up the resonate notes played n sound like pure shit, wut ied do is help him build a good 5gal bucket encloser n den build a sub box n show him that u can make a box out of anything just doesnt mean that it will be as loud as ported/sealed nor will have the sq with the bucket, cause by the time u get done reinforceing n braceing the bucket the $5 bet aint gunna look like shit compared to the price of makein it n givein the stuff needed u'll loose so much airspace that when finished it wont hit right, but for a sealed u can put dynomat around the bucket n a layer or 2 on the bottom n try some polyfill for the inside, n for ported still insolate the outsides a bit n den put a port in the middle of the bucket on the bottom n see if that helps, but to tell the truth ied rather go wit a sealed/ported box n say the hell with it, but another thing is for fun try one of those 5gal water jugs that go ona watercooler, put the sub in the top, insolate the outsides n see if dat works, i might try it myself later, i dnt kno if my opinon helps but worth a shot,the end result is gunna show ur buddy that a sealed/ported box built right is no comparson to the bucket, end of story  :D

here's a link to my system 99 toyota tacoma , 2 mtx 8000 1504's in a sealed downfire , 1000w memphis amp

here's a link to my other system my 90 geo prizm test car

heres a thread i got of new songs u can dl that are legal = Some Good Bangage/you Can Dl These Free And Legit

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"...[glow=red,2,300]the end result is gunna show ur buddy that a sealed/ported box built right is no comparson to the bucket, end of story [/glow]"

Be careful w/ those kinda statements. Like I said ANYTHING is possible.

Ruling out ANYTHING as possible/impossible only comes from proving it.

I sense a whole new can of worms opening as I type this.

:shiftyph34r:

COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly.

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well being that ive done it befor i kinda kno wut im talkin about but theres always room wit variables  :^

here's a link to my system 99 toyota tacoma , 2 mtx 8000 1504's in a sealed downfire , 1000w memphis amp

here's a link to my other system my 90 geo prizm test car

heres a thread i got of new songs u can dl that are legal = Some Good Bangage/you Can Dl These Free And Legit

redblob.gifbouncing%20blob.gif2yooj7m.pngmodel14.gif

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well being that [glow=red,2,300]ive done it befor[/glow] i kinda kno wut im talkin about but theres always room wit variables  :^

Thanx for helpin me make my point...

YOU aren't makin the box/bucket. It's between THOSE TWO^^.

If you say you've done it b4, thats cool. No sarcasm, disrespect or hatin here, maybe it was dope I never saw the one YOU made.

The BIGGEST variable i'm tryin to point out here...is that the guy posing the question/makin the thread is one of the "competing box builders".

The end result will be determined not by your ability or mine to prove it's POSSIBLE, but which of those 2 is a better box builder/knows more about the matter and CAN APPLY IT-HANDS ON. My brother knows A LOT about audio-being he is a major retailer and knows his products, but he couldnt build a box to save his life and doens't think it's "that hard" or "a big deal" to be able to.

Good luck to the guys building the box/bucket.

Hope no one's butt hurt by that but I think that^^ is the main thing to consider.

~2cents.

COOGLE SAID:"bro thats how we got where we are... buy making messes ...... i still learn all the time you just gota be willing to ruck up some shit" "In order to attain the impossible, one must attempt the absurd." ~ Miguel de Unamuno"One machine can do the work of fifty ordinary men, but no machine can do the work of one extraordinary man" -Elbert Hubbard"A proud man can learn humility...but he will be proud of that too" ~I forget who.I'm far from perfect and I know it better than anyone, but I hope to be good at what I do, when I do it...Installs I've done:My Integra: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3161The Lexus : http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=1535Law's Maxima: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5568&hl=Jeff's 2500HD: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=5382&hl=Acura RSX-S: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=3142Z-32 300zx: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=34602004 Civic 4dr: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...?showtopic=8190Trunk/Corner Box: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=16036&hl=1969 Chevy C-10: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...c=20319&hl=Seat-Back AMP-RACK How-to: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...ic=9428&hl=Bunch of subs still for salehttp://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...l=lsn2meboom916"It's game night...we're playin......sex."~Quagmire"When disneyland started it was powered completely by orphan children running on treadmills to generate e-lectrissty…and today, them children are New York Yankees". ~Dale Gribble"Fill it with ice...then pour it up to the top of the ice...& Shut da Fu** up!" ~Urs truly.

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i know its between those two i was just stateing that it was possable to do n will be a good competition with knolage n skill, i was just tryin to give him some ideas of how i did it thats all, not tryin to starta  conflict just statein that its possable to be done but will take alot of skill n creativity for it to preform as expected so would be a good comp between the 2 :D

good luck on the comp n may the best man win

here's a link to my system 99 toyota tacoma , 2 mtx 8000 1504's in a sealed downfire , 1000w memphis amp

here's a link to my other system my 90 geo prizm test car

heres a thread i got of new songs u can dl that are legal = Some Good Bangage/you Can Dl These Free And Legit

redblob.gifbouncing%20blob.gif2yooj7m.pngmodel14.gif

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