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Tell them they are idiots then take a little trip to YouTube.

"YouTube" won't do crap. They need to feel, and hear it. I got people to believe me after I made my 10" *** trash sound like most others' 2 12's.

You also still gotta have respect for them, in other words, don't say "You're stupid, Pioneer sucks, you don't know anything!". In all reality Alpine, JL, Pioneer, Rockford etc. don't sound "That BAD" if they're properly "set-up" (Right enclosure, good amp, no major clipping, wiring, etc.). But there is cheaper and better built subs and amps for cheaper than Mainstream.

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