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Women and college students are the main participants in the Iranian protests....so obviously they do not like thier leadership nor follow in thier footsteps

So more soldiers and more money spent on a war is better then trying diplomatic procedures? I’m just saying war and bombing isn’t always the answer. Just like Iran, it is an extremely delicate subject. You don’t want to get them mad, nor look weak; it’s a tough spot. Best thing we can probably do is just keep some ships in international waters and keep surrounding countries on alert. If a missile is launched for the purposes of violence and not just testing we can probably shoot it down (like what someone else previously said about the satellite). War and bombings has to be viewed as the last possible solution.

with this and Iran....we live in interesting times

I hope people have been following this, because it is big news. If you don’t know what’s going on there, please read up. Anyway could this be the beginning of an Iranian revolution? I mean look at the passion that these people have against Ahmadinejad, hundreds of thousands of people are flooding the streets. It is inspiring to see people really honestly care about their future. How can millions of PAPER ballots be counted in only a few hours….smells fishy. All the facts add up to some sort of fraud, but can that even be refuted? Apparently the Supreme Leader, Ali Khamenei, is the only one that can ask for a recount, but he is the only one that has control of the interior to make the results fraudulent. I think something big is going to happen soon, maybe not this week or next but soon. If the Supreme Leader is calling all the shots no matter what, then the people aren’t actually represented as they claim they are. The only problem is the military and the militias that are for the government and basically controlled by Khamenei. I would say that they need to break away from this Islamic ideology and focus more on a separation between church and state. Obviously since religion is so big, there is no reason to take them out of the equation completely, just not have it run or have such a large influence. The next question is why would Khamenei want Ahmadinejad over Mousavi? I believe because Mousavi is more flexible on his beliefs. He wants more reform throughout the country, possible against what Khamenei wants. And Mousavi wants to have talks with the US, obviously not what Ahmadinejad wants or wants to take seriously. We live in interesting times. Soak up the politics around you, it will shape your life in one way or another.

A Democratic government that was spending money wildly? When Clinton left office there was a surplus…when Obama took office there was a HUGE deficit. Bush’s administration (Republican) began the spending for the banks, Paulson submitted a 3 page proposal to Congress to give them $750 billion with unlimited power and no accountability. Remember the initial facts of what happened to begin the debacle. Also remember that this Democratic administration inherited this mess. I’m sure if McCain won, then this debate would be the other way around. Again the money will be paid back, and in fact is being paid back by some of the banks at this time. The fact that the government is getting larger is just an ideological difference between republicans and democrats. Again if McCain won it would be different, but the country voted for Obama, and ideologically a larger government. I agree, survival of the fittest is the world I am happy to live in, but you have to understand that if Bank of America, Chase, Smith Barney, etc all went down the financial system would have collapsed, period. And it would have been a lot worse if the government had not stepped in. Just research the Savings & Loan crisis of the 80s and you will see what would have happened if they had all gone down. History tends to repeat itself. Look taxes may go up in the future for all of us say 5, 10, 15 or so years from now, but the tea party basis was that taxes are going to go up now. I don’t know about you, but since Obama has been in office my paycheck as increased a little bit. That basis was wrong and misinformed and perpetuated by Fox, not all media. If I remember right, I did see other media outlets cover it for the sake of news, but did not take the time and effort that Fox did. I’m just saying Fox reports an alternate world . Well the BILLIONS that the government is using to pay GM and Chrysler came from China and came from printing enough money to help, but not enough to cause inflation. That’s where the money came from, you can argue all day that taxes are going up, simply not factual. I challenge you to check out any UNBIASED source and see what Obama’s tax plan is. Look at the policies Obama is trying to create, they are all to stimulate the economy in one way or another. Everyone hates the idea of healthcare system overhaul, but it will (not saying the day after it is implemented) it will save the US money, making everything more efficient including putting patient records into digital databases. And unlike the Bush spending Obama’s spending is constructive its not going to a war in which money comes back in one way or another. It goes to programs to put people back to work, again you won’t see these changes overnight, these things take time. Oh come on, do you honestly think we are going to become Communist? Really? That really annoys me when I hear things like this. What basis do you make that argument? Compare Communist North Korea to the US. Does Obama want to rule the world? Does the government have any intentions of blocking all media to only broadcast anti-noncommunist propaganda? When Obama has 100% control of the US military and abolishes the three branches of government….then we will talk. Honestly….I can’t believe that comment. I can’t speak for everyone that went to these rallies, because honestly I really didn’t follow it. BUT it has been proven by independent firms that under Obama’s tax plan only 2% of small business owner (not companies) would see a tax increase. Companies make over $250k all the time, but do the owners? Ok, so do you believe that the ex-CEO of Washington Mutual who made $20 mil (I believe) for less the two weeks worth of work is fair? That is the trickle down effect that was in place for so many years. The salaries some of these people make is ridiculous, but past administrations believed that if you let them do what they want they would eventually spill some of that wealth and profit down the line. Obviously without regulation that would never happen. We are a greedy nation. You nor I can say how history will judge this administration. That will be for the decades to come, we can only debate the topics of now and how they will affect the future. And I have said this before and I’ll say it again. If you would have given Obama a clean slate, ie no recession, no bank bailout, no energy crisis, no terrorist threat….odds are he would not have pumped that much money into the economy, nor spent that much. Remember Bush entered his first term with a surplus and ended it with a major mess.

....I'm not alone . I respect your tours, thanks. The tea parties were pretty much a joke to begin with. In the end the only taxes going to go up (actually they arent technically going up, as the cuts are expiring more like restoring, but thats just a play words) are on people who make $250k plus a year, and I bet you no one who was making $250k plus a year even considered attending one of these. They obviously had something better to do. It is our right to protest against something we dont believe it, but that was just an organized party. The current Iran protests....now that is a real protest (minus the violence, its not needed, but I saw it coming). I think the conservatives are organizing another protest sometime in Sept. I think its on 9/11, I could be wrong. But it will probably get the same coverage and reaction from the rest of the level-headed people. Well I welcome the right side coming at me for my views, as long as it doesn't get stupid and people just yelling one liners in the forum which is irrelevant and non-constructive.

The tea party thing was basically, IMO, a way for the conservative republicans in congress to try and get more support. Is it really a rally against taxes when you are served ice cold beverages, food, and listen to music? I dont think so. It was organized by right wing activists as well as perpetuated by FOX. They claimed they didnt support or have anything to do with it, but they seemed awful encouraged and excited to cover each and everyone one of them. I think the other news stations had one reporter covering it, when it was convinient . Basically a way to expand thier base, when they lost soo much support during the election. It is sad to see so many uninformed people supporting a cause that doesn't exist. It seems this politcal arena is fairly right-sided, a liberal on here may not be what people like

if you make more then 250K a year, then yes....but Fox and the like seem to leave that little detail out