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Yep.

Possibly.

I do not know... if you told FI what you had that could probably make them work, but I do not think a stock BL drop-in would line up properly.

To address some questions about "daily" power handling on the Z v.2 model brought up on other forums : It probably will take a 3k amp just fine when wired at rated impedance, but you won't need to. I AM using a coil with almost half the mass of the Nightshade v.1 model so there is less thermal dissipating mass (although, cooling is better on Z v.2)... but this is the thing -- the Z v.2 production model should be about 1 dB more efficient at equal power compared to the v.1 Nightshade. So... if you needed 3000 watts to do X amount of SPL on the v.1 Nightshade then you will need only 2250 or less for the same output on the Z v.2 (likely less as gaining 1 dB at that point takes more than the 33% needed in theory). So... the top priority in designing the Z v.2 is more SPL per watt, not necessarily to soak up alot of power for no reason If you want to dump a bunch of power on something daily then the Nightshade v.2 is probably more for you as it is getting a very large voice coil with substantially more mass.

I was almost right on applied power Clamped 7200 watts @ 154.3 dB at the competition yesterday.

Oh yah, thats right -- does it pop up inside the frame like the BTL top plate does ? Perhaps why I thought it looked like 1/2" on the old ones I had. Yah, this is a double stack 220mm OD.

I built one up (prototype motor still) for a show tomorrow... D1 with just two of the new spiders + double leads. Burped two 3500s @ 1/4 each on it resulting in 154.2 dB -- with my voltage drop / impedance rise that is probably around 7kw... I may get time to clamp @ the show tomorrow.

I'm not talking bad about the BL Nick -- but obviously they are not the same or similar motors. Maybe the TP just looked thin on the BLs I had (I didn't get a chance to measure them) - it looked like 12.5mm or so on the ones I had. This sub is 32mm thick. But it may be thicker than it looks on the BL -- and again, that is not a knock on the BL... just a difference in the design of the two motors.

On the SPL testing... that was in my Jeep, no wall, sealed on the dash, at 53 hz. I forgot to mention that.

Before all of the "looks like" posts pop up -- it is not based on any other motors. I think the top plate is almost 3x the thickness of the BL. The enclosure requirements will be pretty much the same on the Z v.2 and NS v.2 as the NS v.1 -- depends on the spider package you want.

The current model Nightshade is officially discontinued. We used the last brand new motor in stock today. This is how the Sundown Audio line will look soon : Z series v.2 = 1500-watt RMS model * ETA is 6-8 weeks Nightshade v.2 = 2000-watt RMS model * ETA is mid 2010 (maybe sooner) Both of these new drivers will feature several new technological advancements compared to the Nightshade v.1 to improve power handling and output per watt (efficiency). We will also be offering a spider option with double up tinsel leads for folks that like to run amps at 1/2 ohm daily. I won't release a whole bunch of details just yet. I will let the testing speak for itself when they are available. ----- Here is just a little bit of data from testing the initial Z 15" v.2 prototype motor (which lacks several improvements of the production model): 148.4 -- 1250 watts 150.1 -- 2020 watts 150.8 -- 2530 watts 152.5 -- 3980 watts 153.1 -- 5350 watts 153.2 -- 5570 watts This prototype has a gap that is a full 1.6mm wider than production... this means this motor is "weaker" than what production will be. I was calling this the "NS-X" For a little while... we went with a lighter coil to "take it down" to our 1500-watt driver. Make no mistake, though, it will take power well

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