Gibson... thanks for the input really appreciate it, i totally undeestand the dangers of riding... almost get hit in my car now but with a bike you have to pay attenion 100xs more than what you would a car... people just dont look for them i know i do and i give a biker plenty of room..ive heard alot of stories from family about friends that are paralyzed or dead and stuff.. cant be too safe with a bike but riding with my father is something i really want to do ya know?