cmrs2k Posted September 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 in order to run a good twin turbo setup u have to have a majorly modded engine or else ull blow the heads right ur engine i have seen the smaller turbos which suk so i see where u get it superchargers have the added benefit to put a blower on it so it sticks out the hood, that loox hardcore right there I have built a lot of turbo cars, from the bottom to the top of the motor included, and I can see the attempt at logic for the twins, but I still do not see very many projects that utilize twin turbo setups with any more sucess than a single large turbo. I mean, the Garrett GT47's flow what about 1500cfm or so, ok, now that is a lot of air. You want more, you can get more without doing two of them. I have seen numbers for T105s that do 2800-3000cfm. You could do two of the GT47s, but why? Thats two to spool, two manifolds, two wastegates, Now these are just some generic turbo names and some quick numbers. I don't know of many diesel racers that move this kind of air. Also, I do know that these numbers mean virtually nothing about the specific power that they can make. You would need to know air temps and have compressor maps to be able to begin to calculate. That is another factor. You will generate more heat with a dual setup. Oh, and the blower on the hood does look good. I think that a custom fiberglass cowl leading in to the cold side blades of a turbocharger looks a lot more menacing. Oh, and in this case, I do know that they used two, but that was for show, not for go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 most people pick two over one just because they can braggin rights man thats wut it comes down to in cars "i have more than u" nananananaa plus twin turbo set ups are aesthetically pleasing as well symetry -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrs2k Posted September 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 most people pick two over one just because they can braggin rights man thats wut it comes down to in cars "i have more than u" nananananaa plus twin turbo set ups are aesthetically pleasing as well symetry Hmmm. I don't know any of these people. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like symetry and nice asthetics, but if the goal is to make a car fast, I (and everyone that I know) would rather it be less asthetically pleasing (preferably as stock as possible by appearance) and spank the crap out of people. Plus, I don't know too terribly many real motorheads who brag about what they got. Most of them will not tell what they have period. If someone wants to know, they will let them figure it out by how badly they get destroyed in a race. Now, in all fairness, I base everything that I am saying on those that I know and build with and myself. When you get into the really big drag racers, the big-time pros, there are many that do run paralleled twin setups. Here though, especially with references to bragging rights, I assume that we are on the same page and talking about the average person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 that we are i prefer superchargers because they provide a constant power increase turbos take a while to add power however turbos dont take power to run superchargers do how about u just use both on that beautiful thing? lol -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandiman71874 Posted September 13, 2007 Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 Nice looking car man, but to much Mercedes engenering it it for me. Had an SRT8 in the shop yesterday and that damn thing had Mercedes shit all over it Daily Driver 1999 Kia Sephia Kenwood DNX-893s Audison Bit One Processor 2 Dat 4.125's Sundown Audio SCV-6k Hertz hsk-165xl's Mids running active Focal V30 Series Tweeters running active Sundown Sa-8 v1's in the doors 2 Sundown Zv5 12's Lots of Hushmat Big 3+ and 3 + & 3- runs of Trystar 2/0 2 Dc Power Engineering 320 HP Alts 2017 Comp Vehicle 2006 Toyota 4 Runner Kenwood Excelon DNX-893s Audison Bit One HD DSP 4 Sundown Sa 6.5v2 Component Sets Focal Access 6.5 2 ways Sundown Audio Sax-50.4 Sundown Audio Sax-100.4 2 Dc Power 370xp Northstar agm27f Northstar agm65 2 Northstar asmagm 480's 2 Dual 1 Sundown Nightshade v3 12's 2 Sundown SCV-7500's All SMD Fuse Holders Shitload Of Sundown 1/0 120 sq ft Second Skin Damp Pro No, Its Not A Burp Truck!!!! 2016 Season 3rd place in Xtreme 1 At Finals 2016 Season 6th Place In Kaos 1 At Finals ( Blew The Subs Up In First Round Eliminations) 2 Kansas State Records Set In 2016 In Xtreme 1 And Kaos 1 In Midwest SPL David said: audio is a lifestyle, not a hobby newls1 I cant read a tape to save my life... 1/2's are ok, but other marks confuse me kingsuv only men who cant read a tape, take it in the ass kingsuv you sir, get a pink hard hat on jobsites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrs2k Posted September 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2007 that we are i prefer superchargers because they provide a constant power increase turbos take a while to add power however turbos dont take power to run superchargers do how about u just use both on that beautiful thing? lol To respond line for line, What do you mean? Superchargers are at a set boost level. They are what they are that's true. With a turbo as you climb in engine speed, you can climb in boost all the way up to where you have it cut by your boost controller. Turbos may take a while if you leave like a granny, but when you launch in boost, you are there. No lag. In fact with my 99 GSX I had to get a dual stage boost controller with a steering wheel remote. I had to launch in my preset low boost (8psi) to avoid splattering my tires all over the track even with it being a GSX (these are AWD). Then I could switch to high boost, 28psi. Lag was never an issue, in fact, a little bit of lag might have been helpful. On a second subject to that, superchargers may "rob power" being driven by belt, but you will never notice it. Even a supercharger making 4psi is going to more than cover for any loss it may cause. Running both is Conceptually nice, but I don't have big enough $$, the time and probably not enough skill. I would love to be able to say that I have the skill to do it right. Maybe I could do it if I had the patience. I tried tuning for a small wet kit added to my setup. It didn't last long. I converted it to an intercooler fogger. Not the same power adder, but I the tuning was a lot easier. Kandiman - Thanks a bunch. I knew that Diamler Chrysler had some interminglings with some German Tech. stuff but I really had no idea to what extent. Kind of cool, but it poses a good possibility for headaches too. I am sure you can relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted September 14, 2007 Report Share Posted September 14, 2007 anyway u have a nice car right there i kinda lost wut u said u were gonna do to it -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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