412 CVX Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 fixed. and reading. Just say no to Ground Pounder Customs. My temp system build log More box buildssome cars do over 170db with one sub, so clearly my two 12"s can do that in my car, with my knowledge too! look out bitches! I'm with captain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412 CVX Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 so any thoughts on the latter part of my post? specifically that in a multiple battery setup, it is optimal for the batteries to be the same Just say no to Ground Pounder Customs. My temp system build log More box buildssome cars do over 170db with one sub, so clearly my two 12"s can do that in my car, with my knowledge too! look out bitches! I'm with captain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Concerning one of the original questions: Try to use only one type of battery. Different types will use different technologies/plates/etc and therefore will have different series resistances and holding voltages. One type of battery might charge to 12.8V while another charges to 12.5V. If they are paralleled together then the higher voltage will always feed the lower voltage. It doesn't sound like much but with the current capacity of batteries, it could really add up. Batteries are tough so you may not notice it, but why have your batteries always leveling themselves to a common voltage when you can match them from the start. 2nd question: You can definitely have too many batteries. Current will flow through the path of least resistance so it could source from your alt or your batteries. As mentioned previously, if you draw more current than your alt can handle then it comes from your batteries. If you play for a long time you will drain the batteries and it will be up to your alt to recharge all those batteries. Batteries are a great source of power, for an amount of time. Afterwards they actually turn into loads. If you play your system hard, it would be a good idea to put a charger on the battery bank at night to top off the batteries rather than forcing your OEM alt to charge them when it needs to power other things. This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csill420 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Man you just confused me because I was always taught that the system pulls from the batteries first and then the alternator charges the batteries.That's why people have such big battery banks.Yeah if you don't have an adequate amount of batteries and a big enough alternator then you will kill your alternator quick.So I guess it all depends on the power your running.Also I saw you said a 5k amp would pull 500amps? Don't think that's correct because that would mean it would pop that 300amp fuse everytime. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone. I checked around and found that most say that an amp will pull about half of what its fuse rating is in amps which is a good way to gauge what size alternator you will need. Edit: This is for DC98HOE GREAT explanation Fuck warning points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412 CVX Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 okay, this is starting to come together for me. so i guess i have one last question that might be a little specific. Would a D3100 under the hood suffice for my build, or possibly a couple of smaller kinetik batts? opinions or thoughts? Just say no to Ground Pounder Customs. My temp system build log More box buildssome cars do over 170db with one sub, so clearly my two 12"s can do that in my car, with my knowledge too! look out bitches! I'm with captain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armykyle1 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 A battery bank will act like a buffer. You won't put instant strain on the alt. But if you continually drain your batteries, you'll kill your alt quick. TEAM XS POWERTEAM HEAVY HERTZMy build- http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/194454-e46-bmw-build-pos/#entry2914134youtube- http://www.youtube.com/user/armykyle1big build starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw46 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 im confused myself. jus a random example would 4 kinetik 800s on a stock alt and roughly around 3000rms be bad for the alt? 2000 stratus10 SunDown E-10s Singer 250amp Alt Xs Power D975Concept c2400All 0 gauge wire10 6 1/2's in Rear Doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412 CVX Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 that makes sense. so essentially, make sure to charge the batteries when done. i usually only take short drives as i live in the city. this kind of surfaces another question, at highway/interstate speeds would the batteries charge quicker, thus there is less risk of burning the alternator. Just say no to Ground Pounder Customs. My temp system build log More box buildssome cars do over 170db with one sub, so clearly my two 12"s can do that in my car, with my knowledge too! look out bitches! I'm with captain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunkjuice1 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 once your amps take the battery reserves the factory alt in some cases can't hang or flat out provide good amperage. Thats why most everybody upgrades the alt also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicks Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 that makes sense. so essentially, make sure to charge the batteries when done. i usually only take short drives as i live in the city. this kind of surfaces another question, at highway/interstate speeds would the batteries charge quicker, thus there is less risk of burning the alternator. Short trips help and you won't notice as much but over time the battery bank will deplete. Yeah, higher rpm's will give you more output from the alt, but if its undersized then it will still get stressed and eventually fail. This post sent with 100% recycled electrons. 2004 BMW M3Mechman 280A 2 - XS Power XP30001 - XS Power D375 500F of Maxwell SuperCaps (soon to be 1000F) iPadMini2Dash mounted O-scopeAudison bitOne (Remote DRC MP) Highs Amp - PPI Art A404 Hertz HSK130 (HSK165 waiting...) DC Audio DC9.0K 2- DC Audio XL12m2LEGAL - 147.3dB @ 41Hz OUTLAW - 150.2dB @ 45Hz OUTLAW - 145.7dB @ 30Hz JUNE 2014 SOTM WINNER 2014 COLORADO PEOPLE'S CHOICE WINNER SOTM BUILD:http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/141656-wicks-e46-m3-build-bass-turbo-button-and-a-big-new-addition/page-68#entry2802026 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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