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[Omega5002]

To OP, Alpine. Power Acoustik is junk, and Soundstream is alright but no where any close to Alpine build quality.

[STL.Don]

Well I wouldn't use any of those because you would be under powering your subs which is harmful. I would look at maybe an AudioPipe 3000+ watt rms amp or two AudioPipe amps that are 1500+ watts rms each. Now i am saying AudioPipe because they are pretty inexpensive for what you get. Now if you want to get extremely good quality I would look at DC Audio (or Sound Lab, whatever it truly is), but you will be paying for the quality, not sure how much, but not cheap.

But if you want to power your subs properly I would do two amps and wire them to power each sub. That's what I am doing so I know that each sub is powered, but maybe look at one 3000 watt rms amp first and see if you could swing it. You would not be disappointed.

Underpowering wont hurt anything. ever listen to your stereo at less than full volume? underpowering and compensating by cranking the gains and clipping is harmful. I hate car audio myths.

That is what guys with 12+ years each of experience in this industry have told me.

Now I am going with what they have said because they have never directed me wrong since I have been dealing with them.

Just cause someone been doing something wrong for 12 years doesn't make them right. I encountered a guy with "30 years experience" saying that ported boxes destroys subs, which is blasphemy. Plus, they probably been clipping if they kept blowing super powerful subs with tiny amps.

Underpowering doesn't hurt anything

They weren't clipping, they just said to use the sub to it's proper potential it is easier to have an amp with more than rated power to tune better than an amp with less power who's gain is close to max causing issues.

Now for the 30 years experience guy, maybe he was just kidding or he installed at Audio Express

[Omega5002]

Well I wouldn't use any of those because you would be under powering your subs which is harmful. I would look at maybe an AudioPipe 3000+ watt rms amp or two AudioPipe amps that are 1500+ watts rms each. Now i am saying AudioPipe because they are pretty inexpensive for what you get. Now if you want to get extremely good quality I would look at DC Audio (or Sound Lab, whatever it truly is), but you will be paying for the quality, not sure how much, but not cheap.

But if you want to power your subs properly I would do two amps and wire them to power each sub. That's what I am doing so I know that each sub is powered, but maybe look at one 3000 watt rms amp first and see if you could swing it. You would not be disappointed.

Underpowering wont hurt anything. ever listen to your stereo at less than full volume? underpowering and compensating by cranking the gains and clipping is harmful. I hate car audio myths.

That is what guys with 12+ years each of experience in this industry have told me.

Now I am going with what they have said because they have never directed me wrong since I have been dealing with them.

Just cause someone been doing something wrong for 12 years doesn't make them right. I encountered a guy with "30 years experience" saying that ported boxes destroys subs, which is blasphemy. Plus, they probably been clipping if they kept blowing super powerful subs with tiny amps.

Underpowering doesn't hurt anything

They weren't clipping, they just said to use the sub to it's proper potential it is easier to have an amp with more than rated power to tune better than an amp with less power who's gain is close to max causing issues.

Now for the 30 years experience guy, maybe he was just kidding or he installed at Audio Express

The small amp would still need to be properly tuned anyways

[Jessica]

I should have just kept my mouth shut. regardless of that I am right.

o.p., I would go with the alpine too. and sorry if i inadvertently derailed your thread.

[STL.Don]

I should have just kept my mouth shut. regardless of that I am right.

o.p., I would go with the alpine too. and sorry if i inadvertently derailed your thread.

I apologize for what i have said. Just was saying what I have been told.

Good luck, and I agree the Alpine would be the best from what you have listed.

[1-12-t1]

Well I wouldn't use any of those because you would be under powering your subs which is harmful. I would look at maybe an AudioPipe 3000+ watt rms amp or two AudioPipe amps that are 1500+ watts rms each. Now i am saying AudioPipe because they are pretty inexpensive for what you get. Now if you want to get extremely good quality I would look at DC Audio (or Sound Lab, whatever it truly is), but you will be paying for the quality, not sure how much, but not cheap.

But if you want to power your subs properly I would do two amps and wire them to power each sub. That's what I am doing so I know that each sub is powered, but maybe look at one 3000 watt rms amp first and see if you could swing it. You would not be disappointed.

.... yea and a guy at my local audio shop thinks he can hit a 170db with 4 18s getting about 3 cubes each.... sealed.

its a myth yo...

[gt58]

http://store.crescendoaudio.com/bc5500d/

[CodyLucente]

lmao, no on the crescendo. that amp is $900+ at that price i would get the sound stream 3.71

[Guest]

Well I wouldn't use any of those because you would be under powering your subs which is harmful.

*cough*bullshit*cough*

[STL.Don]

Well I wouldn't use any of those because you would be under powering your subs which is harmful. I would look at maybe an AudioPipe 3000+ watt rms amp or two AudioPipe amps that are 1500+ watts rms each. Now i am saying AudioPipe because they are pretty inexpensive for what you get. Now if you want to get extremely good quality I would look at DC Audio (or Sound Lab, whatever it truly is), but you will be paying for the quality, not sure how much, but not cheap.

But if you want to power your subs properly I would do two amps and wire them to power each sub. That's what I am doing so I know that each sub is powered, but maybe look at one 3000 watt rms amp first and see if you could swing it. You would not be disappointed.

Underpowering wont hurt anything. ever listen to your stereo at less than full volume? underpowering and compensating by cranking the gains and clipping is harmful. I hate car audio myths.

That is what guys with 12+ years each of experience in this industry have told me.

Now I am going with what they have said because they have never directed me wrong since I have been dealing with them.

Just cause someone been doing something wrong for 12 years doesn't make them right. I encountered a guy with "30 years experience" saying that ported boxes destroys subs, which is blasphemy. Plus, they probably been clipping if they kept blowing super powerful subs with tiny amps.

Underpowering doesn't hurt anything

They weren't clipping, they just said to use the sub to it's proper potential it is easier to have an amp with more than rated power to tune better than an amp with less power who's gain is close to max causing issues.

Now for the 30 years experience guy, maybe he was just kidding or he installed at Audio Express

This is actually what he had said. I skimmed and didn't read it fully. He was saying that underpowering and trying to get the most out of your subs can cause harm and he was implying the gain issue. Sorry about that.