Carbon Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 So I'm wondering If I would be better off to set my gains with a clamp meter vs an o-scope because I will not be using the full power of this amp. I will be running 2 Fi Fully loaded SSD 18s on a DC 5.0k at .5 ohm. The 5.0k Is way to much for these subs to handle at full tilt. Each sub needs 1500w rms. Im assuming the loaded ones I have can take around 1850 easy. Would the best way to set this up be to wire everything up and keep turning the gain up with my Fluke true rms clamp until I reach 3500-4kw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo1103 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Not too sure if this would work but try setting the gain to the max unclipped level, and then start backing it down until you reach the desired power. That way you'd know for sure you weren't clipping. But like I said I'm not too sure if this would work but I'm sure someone with more knowledge than me will chime in. 2002 Honda CR-VAlpine 9887My BuildRebuilding... Second Skin Damp 4 DC XL 15's 2 DC 5ks Singer 320 amp 6 cap banksSky High wire 2 VM-1's OM-1 all under window line Team DC Audio Obama has a law he's trying to pass right now, trying to ban Leo for being a threat to children everywhere.EDIT: Not in a JP kind of way. I thought I was going to die from all the jizz filling my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 I would just set the gains with 0db track and run your sub out through a pac-lc1. Then use it with the clamp meter to set it where you want. Make a mark next to the pac where you are happy and there ya go. edit Also, .5 ohm is scary shit man, hope you have the electrical. Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Im not sure where the lc1 comes into play. technically the dc amp has its own bass control knob. Basically Depending on what subs I hook up to the amp I will get different gain settings? For some reason I was under the impression that the DD1 and other devices were used to set the amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is the DC knob gain or bass boost? Looks like the description says "bass knob". If it is a gain knob then just use it instead of the pac. The pac lc1 just gets put inline on your rca's going to the amp. really simple. Once you set gains with the dd-1 it won't matter what subs you hook up. Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptorman Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Just DMM it to a general power output. 1996 GMC Sonoma Four Fi BTL Neo 18's In 2:1 6th Order Bandpass 2 Ampere 5k's @ .5 TEAM FI TEAM #LITHIUMCANTDEMO On 10/20/2013 at 0:37 AM, KillaCam said: Fucking with a Prius driver is like making fun of a disabled kid. Pussies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is the DC knob gain or bass boost? Looks like the description says "bass knob". If it is a gain knob then just use it instead of the pac. The pac lc1 just gets put inline on your rca's going to the amp. really simple. Once you set gains with the dd-1 it won't matter what subs you hook up. If this is true, you could go from a SMD 18 to a dc level 2 10" and not have to readjust the gain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrd6 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 ^yep...wont change the way the amp behaves in any way. The amplifier doesn't recieve or use any sort of feedback from the sub(s) it is connected to, it simply presents a voltage at its ouput terminals. If it were me, I would just DD-1 that amp to its full potential with the 0 or -5 db track and then go from there. You'll learn when/if you need to turn it down. An extra 500watts per sub for those ssds is not all that much and after rise, voltage drop, etc you probably wont be seeing that much real power anyways My Build Log: http://www.stevemead...-sundown-power/ Team NorthWestSPL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Your'e overthinking this. 1. Buy a pac-lc1 level control for your sub out on your headunit. 2. Connect said level control 3. Set gains at whatever you want 0db, -5db, -10db with pac-lc1 all the way up. 4. Connect subs 5. Connect Clamp and DMM 6. play test tone with the track you used to set gains with pac-lc1 all the way down. 7. Turn up pac-lc1 until you reach desired wattage or your subwoofers get pissed at you. Whichever you are more comfortable with. just using a dmm on an unloaded amp is a waste of time, unloaded meaning no subs hooked up. That method does not work for figuring output. I hope that makes sense. Rest in peace, walled 87 accord build log 03' Corolla build with AA Mayhem inside. My super random youtube channel and terrible camera work. Wiring comparison by CaptainzPlanetz Wire and fuse guide by Guest SyKo13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 ^yep...wont change the way the amp behaves in any way. The amplifier doesn't recieve or use any sort of feedback from the sub(s) it is connected to, it simply presents a voltage at its ouput terminals. If it were me, I would just DD-1 that amp to its full potential with the 0 or -5 db track and then go from there. You'll learn when/if you need to turn it down. An extra 500watts per sub for those ssds is not all that much and after rise, voltage drop, etc you probably wont be seeing that much real power anyways Thanks for the info man that helped alot. The subs are d2 so My only realistic wiring option is .5. On strong electrical does any one know what the power output will be of the 5k? I will probably just set the gain than wind up clamping it. Just trying not to blow my subs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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