bassboombottom Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 i thought about the idea of square or rectangle 5.25" components and 6by9" rectangle coaxils..but. i dont think it would be too practicle in SQ or production costs... 8v fury said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tacomabanga1986 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 thats what i was thinkin, but worth a shot to see em made? what u think bout square vc for the l5's and l7's? here's a link to my system 99 toyota tacoma , 2 mtx 8000 1504's in a sealed downfire , 1000w memphis amp here's a link to my other system my 90 geo prizm test car heres a thread i got of new songs u can dl that are legal = Some Good Bangage/you Can Dl These Free And Legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassboombottom Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 They would be considered concept and be very expensive. id like to see them in the next CES show. You think the Square design or rectangle design would make any noticable difference in SQ with drivers that small? 8v fury said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 square only goes so far i think that square can work for midbass drivers but not tweets and mids or voicecoils -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassboombottom Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 So no Square VCs? Would that even work at the concept level? 8v fury said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 it could cause problems like bending or folding under pressure whereas a circle has no pressure points and its evenly dispersed. its simple physics circles and spheres are incredibly strong and they are the better choice for a voicecoil -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassboombottom Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 The strongest VC is made out of some space age material.. if there were to be a square VC, it would have to be light, rigid, and very thick.. id say about 2-3 mm thick to keep from buckling.. *EDIT* Sorry if i sound like a n00b talkin about things that are impossible 8v fury said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polecat Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 wow............... Ok, there is no x15 for street classes, Street A and B, is either 10's or 12's, anything higher, SS or extreme classes, X18 as far as round, well we feel if you can stick a monster round 18" in there, you can have a monster X18 in there and gain even more cone area. Building a high powered street round woofer, CVX is like the L7, but round. And works in a small sealed enclosure, if SQ is your passion. But if we built <again> built a round 18", with huge motor, etc...then we could spend literally thousands and thousands of dollars in tooling, etc to sell, what, maybe 200 a year? Now, sure, you can say "sure, spend $10K on tooling, sell 200 at $300 and there's your profit"... not really. Some things, when you build, and own tooling like most larger manufactures do, can cost well into $100,000, and up. So then you add $150 building a sub you sell fro $300. Price points are lowered because of the flood of this market nowdays. You maybe make $150, but I bet it's much lower. You may see a TON of these HUGE honking 18's, 10's or 12's, all over, but honestly, they don't sell as much as you think. We on car audio forums, are the verrrrrry small portion of population buying car audio. Most 'average' people trading up in sound, don't want 10,000 watts and a woofer that weights 130 lbs. Could we build for the elite and compete with these others,sure. But the 'streebale' L7, CVX, CVR sell more to the population, than the smaller SPL elites. But, in many instances, they hold their own fairly well. Behind every great man....is an underwear tag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO2288 Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Square voice coils are just retarded as all hell. Keep the strong circle voice coil and a square cone for more cone area. I agree with the whole 15" thing. No need for it. I see more 12"s and 18"s anyway. Ill see just about as many 8" and 10"s as I do 15"s now a days. I personally have my favorites of 12"s and 18"s. But looks like im not the only one. Square mids i dont see a point in either but to maybe looks. Factory speakers come as circles. Lots of mods to get them into the doors then. Me personally i wouldent find a need for them either because im looking for clarity on vocals that get loud. Not looking for bass to come out of my doors speakers. Thats how i feel on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8PunkRok Posted February 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 wow............... Ok, there is no x15 for street classes, Street A and B, is either 10's or 12's, anything higher, SS or extreme classes, X18 as far as round, well we feel if you can stick a monster round 18" in there, you can have a monster X18 in there and gain even more cone area. Building a high powered street round woofer, CVX is like the L7, but round. And works in a small sealed enclosure, if SQ is your passion. But if we built <again> built a round 18", with huge motor, etc...then we could spend literally thousands and thousands of dollars in tooling, etc to sell, what, maybe 200 a year? Now, sure, you can say "sure, spend $10K on tooling, sell 200 at $300 and there's your profit"... not really. Some things, when you build, and own tooling like most larger manufactures do, can cost well into $100,000, and up. So then you add $150 building a sub you sell fro $300. Price points are lowered because of the flood of this market nowdays. You maybe make $150, but I bet it's much lower. You may see a TON of these HUGE honking 18's, 10's or 12's, all over, but honestly, they don't sell as much as you think. We on car audio forums, are the verrrrrry small portion of population buying car audio. Most 'average' people trading up in sound, don't want 10,000 watts and a woofer that weights 130 lbs. Could we build for the elite and compete with these others,sure. But the 'streebale' L7, CVX, CVR sell more to the population, than the smaller SPL elites. But, in many instances, they hold their own fairly well. i guess i understand the money issue and ur point about square vs. round -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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