RedFred Posted January 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 The ZV318s were okay, but nothing special I lost a couple tenths of a dB compared to the HDX318s, and lost a lot of lower end playability but shortly after that, I found a good deal on 5 hybrid Sundown ZV315s, and had Alec Sajewski hook me up with a box too ZV3 motor U cone U Basket NS2 coil ZV5 spiders d1 I had a box designed by Drew Jones last year for the Denali, that I paid to have built and never used: it was designed for 3 Wolfram AU 15s on 3 Wolfram 4500s, but I never ended up doing a real build in that truck so here it was built by Correy in 2018: and the same design given to Alec in 2019: I thought it was pretty amusing to pay for a design and the box to be built twice... before getting to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted January 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 Around this point, I wasn't super happy with the G10 performance (granted my charging and electrical issues didn't help) so I bought a G30 yeah bars came on backwards from Limitless... glad my buddy pointed that out before we hooked it up wrong I also swapped from Eminence mids to Crescendo UN series: doors got much louder on the same power, but definitely lost a lot of midbass around 80-200hz at some point in all of this, I sold my SQ 7k and picked up two Wolfram 4500s.. then everything came together added another diode, and got my voltage finally stable around 16v because the subs were D1, with two amps I could either wire @ 0.75 per amp or 0.33 per amp I wired @ 0.33 first and was protecting amps non stop.. so I swapped to 0.75 per amp didn't have my real SSA APM2 meter yet, so I don't know if I got scores from this setup I wasn't real happy with the power of the 4500s @ 0.75 per though, as you can see I was holding steady 14s on music. I later came to find out that these subs and this box had about 3x rise... so 2.1 ohms per amp or so I also found out that the reason my amps protected @ 0.33 was because I was losing a coil on one sub, causing my impedance to freak out but before I figured all that out, I swapped the Wolfram 4500s to a VFL 18k, Audiopipe 4095 to a Taramps 400x4, and Sundown ZV3U15s to American Bass Godfathers this was when I first got my SSA APM2 and my SMD AMM-1 Scores were pretty meh.... mid 152s on the glass on 10kw clamped. wasn't real happy, but I had switched from 3" coils to 4" coils I was also very surprised at the lack of power from the 18k (38hz was where I started, and I was scared to turn up the knob at that point, so that's why the low power there) while discussing all this, my buddy Jake Calvert suckered me into buying some Taramps crap anyone who knows me knows I generally hate Brazilian (sub amps) - I've had good luck with 4 channels, but I've blown the following amps: 2x Banda 7k @ 0.7 each (not sure if my error or what... dealer told me I could wire @ 0.7, so I did - probably clipped to death as I had no indicator back in 2017) 1x Taramps 10.3k @ 0.33 (thought I was wired at 1.33... did my math wrong. amp did last about 40 seconds on music tho!) 2x MD 3ks (two different amps in different vehicles, both just stopped working one day... not sure here...) so yeah. I was skeptical to say the least, but Jake assured me the MD line was the truth and I could abuse it for him as long as I got clamps, and he would warranty against any of my user error in she goes - back on the 3 ZV3U15s also removed a diode here (from 3 back to 2) - so that I wouldn't charge above 15.6v. didn't wanna risk blowing the Taramps https://youtu.be/jK99IVSRNNs From 3 AB Godfather 15s @ 0.67 on a VFL 18k... rising to 1.1 ohm and clamping 10,579w To 3 Sundown ZV3U15s @ 0.67 on a Taramps MD 12k... rising to 1.8 ohm and clamping 10,724w on the same electrical I was blown away. Almost doubled my rise across the board, while keeping the same power, and improving score (duh here - 4" coils to 3" coils) don't think I have any videos from this setup, as it also was pretty short lived I did get some videos of the doors with the new Nendo UN 8s and Taramps 2000x4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted January 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 after I got the MD 12k in, I started talking with Jake about potential to wire @ 0.5 daily... and then talked with Drew to start working on a new box for either more ZV3U15s, or to swap to ZV515s or 18s. Drew was pretty backlogged, and Correy messaged me saying he had a small window to do a build, so I whipped out my own hair brained box design within a week I had the finished product the box was done so fast, I didn't have the other subs reconed yet, so had to take care of that: went with 49" wide instead of 48" wide that Drew likes, so it was a much tighter fit with the battery I just kinda eyeballed everything about this build, so when it came time to get the battery in, I couldn't do it without hacking up the battery box a little I started with the subs @ 2 ohm because I was scared pretty damn good clamp numbers, 4kw+ @ 4-5 ohms rising from 2 ohms but wtf was up with my SPL scores? couldn't even break a 49 with 4 15s on 4kw? when I was reviewing video from that day, it looked like one sub wasn't working: https://youtu.be/c7LRa9VO3qc turns out one of the subs had a coil setup backwards and I hadn't paid attention lucky I didn't blow a sub or an amp once I fixed that, I gained about 1.5dB across the board, and was doing around 150s - 151s. then I got real confident and wired straight to 0.5 and so far it plays music, burps, and takes abuse for 1+ hour a day and hasn't protected yet I did a little write up on IJWB, but the MD 12k has been my favorite amp I've ever used $690 MSRP - and much better deals from dealers, to clamp 13k+ @ 1 ohm, 9k+ @ 2 ohm, 4k+ @ 5 ohm? yes please https://youtu.be/8NbgvjVpD1k best scores to date have been: 155.01 @ 46hz on the dash - 1.4 ohms clamping 11,864w 156.22 @ 46hz in the kick - unknown rise and power https://youtu.be/k7xZWveAQQ0 https://youtu.be/Hsm0xAVz0dY and now we're all caught up never thought I'd have a 155+ daily with 5 seats, but here we are. mainly by accident and just buying gear when deals were presented. currently deciding if I want to add more alts, another G30... go for 5 15s.... work more on cabin gains... etc to see if I could get a 56+ or 57+ no wall we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted January 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2020 oh and I almost forgot during Black Friday's sale I went on a whim and got some Nendo UN 12s, horns, and FT1s so Correy is working on those doors currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted January 19, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2020 new doors got finished this weekend hopefully get some testing done tomorrow if it isn't too cold out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsneon98 Posted January 20, 2020 Report Share Posted January 20, 2020 american bass ftw!! all ive been running sub wise for going on 8-9 years now. Love what they do on a budget. Setup looks killer man! gotta stop looking at build logs, makes me miss bass that much more lol Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/152954-1998-plymouth-neon-updates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted January 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 7:14 PM, bsneon98 said: american bass ftw!! all ive been running sub wise for going on 8-9 years now. Love what they do on a budget. Setup looks killer man! gotta stop looking at build logs, makes me miss bass that much more lol I enjoyed the Godfather subs, wasn't really a fan of the amps lol but for sure, get a build going! always gotta have something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsneon98 Posted January 23, 2020 Report Share Posted January 23, 2020 9 hours ago, RedFred said: I enjoyed the Godfather subs, wasn't really a fan of the amps lol but for sure, get a build going! always gotta have something sounds amazing man! Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/152954-1998-plymouth-neon-updates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFred Posted February 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 6:19 AM, bsneon98 said: sounds amazing man! thanks! I'm absolutely in love with this door setup. I've never had a better one sub stage is really growing on me too: everything from 28hz to 55hz with a decent bit of authority (152db+) but it's time for new stuff again out with the 2nd row bench in with the 2nd row buckets 2nd alt and 2nd battery on the way, and will be building a battery / amp rack between the seats this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsneon98 Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 that damn suga boom boom song gets stuck in my head so bad lol Build Log: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/152954-1998-plymouth-neon-updates/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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