Eskii Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 You would have really high port velocity if you port that box either way. The smaller the port the lower the tune. The longer the port the lower the tune. I assume that the 1.85 cubes includes the port? So any port takes up air space along with the sub too. So to get that low tune you need either small port that is short (really high port velocity) or a large port (10-16 square inches per cubic foot of box) with a long length to get the lower tune. That is fine but you only have that 1.85 cubes to work with and the port would start to gobble up your space. So... you get back to the high port velocity again.I have been putting numbers in Bass Box Pro and I just can't make it work with that tune. 3 10s with their displacment, plus a port that is only 12sq inches that is 18 inches long gives a remaining internal space of around 1.4 cubes (less than the recommended) and tunes to about 32-33 hz. That gives a really high vent velocity and poor low end output. I just don't see it happening. But you could proove me wrong- that space is just killing you. note that the 1.85 cu.ft is including the drivers displacement Quote Previous: 1988 Nissan Patrol Rockford T800.4 Rockford T1 15 (sealed) Rockford 6.5 Components Current: 1997 Jeep Wrangler Build goals... 1x RF P300.2 4x Hertz HCX165's Built Completes Alpine 9886 Headunit RF P300.2 RF P500-1bd 2x RF P2-D2 8" Subs, 1.3 cubes @39.5Hz 4x Hertz HCX130's Current comment... Satisfied for the moment, focusing on performance upgrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance_aka_64 Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 You would have really high port velocity if you port that box either way. The smaller the port the lower the tune. The longer the port the lower the tune. I assume that the 1.85 cubes includes the port? So any port takes up air space along with the sub too. So to get that low tune you need either small port that is short (really high port velocity) or a large port (10-16 square inches per cubic foot of box) with a long length to get the lower tune. That is fine but you only have that 1.85 cubes to work with and the port would start to gobble up your space. So... you get back to the high port velocity again.I have been putting numbers in Bass Box Pro and I just can't make it work with that tune. 3 10s with their displacment, plus a port that is only 12sq inches that is 18 inches long gives a remaining internal space of around 1.4 cubes (less than the recommended) and tunes to about 32-33 hz. That gives a really high vent velocity and poor low end output. I just don't see it happening. But you could proove me wrong- that space is just killing you. WOOT!!! about time you started to post here. Quote Need any thing chromed? Hit me up!!! gamer tag: (360) mEmEnToMoRi64 My Myspace refs: from here: RollinSoLow, Derrick824, Ray from c.a.c.o. : teamsubgopoof, splvictim20, SundownAudioNY from C.A.J. : Donpisto, spladdict19, CAJunkyard, JBLCAMRY, DasBot (robot underground) from ca.com: alxmlr789,photocrazy8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin - STAPUFT Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 WOOT!!! about time you started to post here. what's up son!!!!! Quote 12 - 12"s in the STAY PUFT 1989 Chevy Astro Build & Comment Log Un-Interrupted Build LogYouTube Channel Chevy Trailblazer 5.1 Dolby Digital DTS Install You have a beard of a mysterious sea captain. I would follow you to hell and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 That's not enough port area for that much cone. You tune the port to the box but you have to allow for cone area when figuring out port area Just means you need longer ports. What's the dimensions? Could you fit 4 4" aeroports either firing up or firing across the box? The flares will reduce port noise, otherwise you're gonna need a shitload of port to stop it chuffing. Ideally you would need about 15 sq.in for EACH sub, as mentioned... I figure this box is going across behind the seats, could you have external slot ports that extend out under each seat or something? Quote 10.x volts fo' life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskii Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 That's not enough port area for that much cone. You tune the port to the box but you have to allow for cone area when figuring out port area Just means you need longer ports.What's the dimensions? Could you fit 4 4" aeroports either firing up or firing across the box? The flares will reduce port noise, otherwise you're gonna need a shitload of port to stop it chuffing. Ideally you would need about 15 sq.in for EACH sub, as mentioned... I figure this box is going across behind the seats, could you have external slot ports that extend out under each seat or something? Could be an option, hmmm. I'll get back to the drawing board!!! yeh thanks, i thought i needed more port area Quote Previous: 1988 Nissan Patrol Rockford T800.4 Rockford T1 15 (sealed) Rockford 6.5 Components Current: 1997 Jeep Wrangler Build goals... 1x RF P300.2 4x Hertz HCX165's Built Completes Alpine 9886 Headunit RF P300.2 RF P500-1bd 2x RF P2-D2 8" Subs, 1.3 cubes @39.5Hz 4x Hertz HCX130's Current comment... Satisfied for the moment, focusing on performance upgrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskii Posted July 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 That's not enough port area for that much cone. You tune the port to the box but you have to allow for cone area when figuring out port area Just means you need longer ports.What's the dimensions? Could you fit 4 4" aeroports either firing up or firing across the box? The flares will reduce port noise, otherwise you're gonna need a shitload of port to stop it chuffing. Ideally you would need about 15 sq.in for EACH sub, as mentioned... I figure this box is going across behind the seats, could you have external slot ports that extend out under each seat or something? Could be an option, hmmm. I'll get back to the drawing board!!! yeh thanks, i thought i needed more port area Quote Previous: 1988 Nissan Patrol Rockford T800.4 Rockford T1 15 (sealed) Rockford 6.5 Components Current: 1997 Jeep Wrangler Build goals... 1x RF P300.2 4x Hertz HCX165's Built Completes Alpine 9886 Headunit RF P300.2 RF P500-1bd 2x RF P2-D2 8" Subs, 1.3 cubes @39.5Hz 4x Hertz HCX130's Current comment... Satisfied for the moment, focusing on performance upgrades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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