fecupe2001 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) Hey guys, i don´t know how to use any sketching program or anything but it´s ok, i just want you to check the size and ratios of a 4th order i´m designing for my friend´s nissan almera, i´ve designed and built lots of boxes before, and also, a few Bandpasses but nothing major, i just want to double chek with you guys, few heads thinks better than one Anyways, the box is for 4 Digital designs 2515 , it´s gonna use about 6000 watts, we don´t know yet. 3:1 RATIO 24 cubic feet after displacement. 6 cubic feet the rear chamber, 1.5 cubic feet per each 15" sub 18 cubic feet the front chamber with 370 SQ of port , 20 SQ per cubic feet tuned @ 45 hz This is meant for hairtricks, demos and daily listening, maybe i´ll build another port for comps, don´t know yet, but main goal with this design it´s to have a very good musical box that still scores a nice number Sounds good? any comment, opinion and advice are welcome, i don´t wanna mess up and lose tons of money and time building this hehe, cheers!!! Edited November 15, 2010 by fecupe2001 Quote I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/
Steph3n1 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Posted November 15, 2010 Hey guys, i don´t know how to use any sketching program or anything but it´s ok, i just want you to check the size and ratios of a 4th order i´m designing for my friend´s nissan almera, i´ve designed and built lots of boxes before, and also, a few Bandpasses but nothing major, i just want to double chek with you guys, few heads thinks better than one Anyways, the box is for 4 Digital designs 2515 , it´s gonna use about 6000 watts, we don´t know yet. 3:1 RATIO 24 cubic feet after displacement. 6 cubic feet the rear chamber, 1.5 cubic feet per each 15" sub 18 cubic feet the front chamber with 370 SQ of port , 20 SQ per cubic feet tuned @ 45 hz This is meant for hairtricks, demos and daily listening, maybe i´ll build another port for comps, don´t know yet, but main goal with this design it´s to have a very good musical box that still scores a nice number Sounds good? any comment, opinion and advice are welcome, i don´t wanna mess up and lose tons of money and time building this hehe, cheers!!! looks pretty good you probably wont need that much power tho 3:1 ratio 4th orders are really really efficient.. how are you planning on mounting the woofers? like in a V? Quote 2005 Ford Ranger Reg cab Build in Progress T3 Audio T2000 12 ARC SE4000 Stinger HPM 1/0 Wire DC power 270xp Batts: 1 Redtop up front and a Stinger SPP2250 in the back Hopes to be in and around a 150....weel see my youtube channel http://www.youtube.com/user/steph3n1 Team DBs (Driven By sound)
uhoh_45 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Posted November 15, 2010 sounds solid just like my 4rth order spec wise give or take couple cubes ported and i was tuned higher 60 hz yet peaked in the lower hz's Quote R.I.P! (Nov-29-2009) 92 explorer - 4 Atomic Apxx 15s duel .7s - 4rth order bandpass wall -4 powerbass XA-3000D's - 16 8volt batts wired to 16 volts - (9+/9-) runs 0gauge - 152.3 Db @ 29hz BUILD LOG current build 97 chevy lumina4 - 1 Atomic Apx 18 - 6 cube slot port trunk sealed off - 1 powerbass XA-3000D - 2 optima G31s in spare tire18 1 run 1/0 lumina build log
fecupe2001 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Posted November 15, 2010 looks pretty good you probably wont need that much power tho 3:1 ratio 4th orders are really really efficient.. how are you planning on mounting the woofers? like in a V? Thanks a lot for the input man, i fucking hate not knowing how to use a sketching program, i´ll have to learn hehe, anyways, i still don´t know how i´m gonna mount the subs yet, it´s a trunk car, i have two options , mounting them on the "floor" of the box just like rival´s design, or, getting them on the back of the box with a vertical port on the center of the car, i can´t get the port on the driver´s side because this car is gonna compete on bass race, and over here, we bass race with driver´s door open. If the sealed chamber it´s on the back, i guess i´ll have to mount them on "zig zag" , i´ll take care of that later, first i want to be sure on the measures , i actually want to build a flat wall because of the space, but he wants something different tho. Quote I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/
fecupe2001 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Posted November 15, 2010 sounds solid just like my 4rth order spec wise give or take couple cubes ported and i was tuned higher 60 hz yet peaked in the lower hz's you think it´s solid?? nice to know that then, yeah i´m building the port kind of big so i can shrink it and test, my 2512´s doesn´t like big port at all in my explorer, so that´why i want to be able to test port area a little bit on this 4th order Quote I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/
uhoh_45 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Posted November 15, 2010 check out my build log it might benefit you - explorer - 4-15s - 4rth order bandpass Quote R.I.P! (Nov-29-2009) 92 explorer - 4 Atomic Apxx 15s duel .7s - 4rth order bandpass wall -4 powerbass XA-3000D's - 16 8volt batts wired to 16 volts - (9+/9-) runs 0gauge - 152.3 Db @ 29hz BUILD LOG current build 97 chevy lumina4 - 1 Atomic Apx 18 - 6 cube slot port trunk sealed off - 1 powerbass XA-3000D - 2 optima G31s in spare tire18 1 run 1/0 lumina build log
fecupe2001 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Posted November 15, 2010 i´m gonna check it hommie, but my explorer it´s gonna get 4 3518´s (i´m already using two in the suzuki swift) on a flat wall i guess, i don´t think i have the room for a 4th order and 4 18´s there hehe, still, gonna watch it and see if i can steal some ideas from you hehe, i´ll let you know Quote I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/
fecupe2001 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Posted November 15, 2010 Morning BUMP question, what about the sealed box? should i do common chamber or each sub on it´s own box?? it´s gonna use a single amp by the way. Quote I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/
uhoh_45 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Posted November 15, 2010 keep the sealed box's separate if your looking for numbers 4rth orders take lots trial and error the A-team had explained bunch bout his 4rth order ( 6 lvl 5 12s) that you do separate chambers so you can fine tune each sub individually say one chamber is 1.4 cubes where another could be 1.3 and so on i know with my box's i built them to 1.5 and found they liked smaller sealed box's so i ended up shrinking the box's to 1.35sh by adding bunch 2x4s on the inside of my box's to shrink them hope this helps Quote R.I.P! (Nov-29-2009) 92 explorer - 4 Atomic Apxx 15s duel .7s - 4rth order bandpass wall -4 powerbass XA-3000D's - 16 8volt batts wired to 16 volts - (9+/9-) runs 0gauge - 152.3 Db @ 29hz BUILD LOG current build 97 chevy lumina4 - 1 Atomic Apx 18 - 6 cube slot port trunk sealed off - 1 powerbass XA-3000D - 2 optima G31s in spare tire18 1 run 1/0 lumina build log
fecupe2001 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Posted November 15, 2010 Yes sir, it helps a lot, where can i find clay´s posts? i love the jimbo!! last night i watched your whole build log, very nice work man, the explorer is playing? i think you said you were gonna ditch that car. Quote I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion! 2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/ 8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/
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