loopkiller

I could see you point about a battery that had shorted cells or some other major defect, but simply low charged batteries out of the box should not draw more power than the alt would be required to make when the audio is pumping. Let's take this guys specific example. He had a D3100 @ 12.74v and a D3400 @ 12.51v out of the box. How many amps of current would you expect to see these two batteries draw in order to charge? I would bet my left nut (right one is no good) that it would be less than 50A of draw to charge them. So what you are saying is that this guy would burn up his alt by pulling 50A to charge these? If that is true, then he has one POS alt and should NEVER install an audio system in that vehicle. Agree?

I am a little confused here. I was told that adding batteries would assist my alt in powering my amps. So now if I add a rear battery, I am not helping my alt? Adding rear batteries are detrimental to my charging system? Why sell them then? So if you are upset at him returning 2 perfectly good batteries, and you are sure they were perfectly good, how could it be that his amps fried due to low voltage? This could be answered one of two ways: 1) The batteries were defective and did not properly supplement the alt power. 2) The batteries were good, but are over-rated and were not adequate for powering a 3000W amp.

I don't get that at all. I have never seen a battery draw that much current that it would "over-work" the alt.

Sell the Batc®aps to some unsuspecting noob and buy some better batteries with the money.

Why would you say that. He already owns it and it will charge his battery without any worries. The only alternator that you should NOT charge your battery with is a dead one.

I have had a Kinetik in my car for about 4 years now. I don't have a big comp system, it is just a daily vehicle. I have a HC1400 under the hood and that is my only battery. I live where it gets very cold in the winter and very hot in the summer, so it gets some abuse. I have NEVER had one regret buying this battery. I have other friends who have run PM and Batcaps and both were less than stellar. But like with anything, you will get a bad one now and then no matter which brand you go with. Everyone is going to have a different experience.

I made this thread first, you happened to see the CA thread first. I still have not received a single reply from a XS or MM rep.

Best charger in the world is under the hood of your car. Your alternator!

I just went to the PM site today and noticed that they moved their office to Chicago. I am just wondering why they moved so far away? Maybe this is just a business thing, but I wanted to make sure that you guys are not going out of business or something like that.

Yeah my D1000 had a "MADE IN CHINA" sticker on the bottom that was half scratched off from the factory. The bottom of mine was pretty beat up right out of the box.

You might want to ask for some side stickers as well. Not sure if the tops are the ones that were messed up, but the sides look beat up in your pics.

It looks like you did charge them with your charger. Looks like you overcharged them too. How much amperage was that 14.8v~14.9v charge at? Now if I were you, I would demand a warranty exchange because you have people here saying that 15v is OK, yet the manual says 14.4v MAX.

If your 12v batteries are resting at 14.1v, you have a serious charging issue. If your 16v batteries are resting at 14.1v, you have a dead batteries. 12.79v is probably fine. It is very close to full charge. 12.8v after resting a full day after last charge is probably full. You might see them rest as high as 13.2v right after taking them off the charger. However, you cannot know the charge depth by voltage alone. You will have the chance of seeing a surface charge that look like a full charge if the battery was not charged properly.

So he probably overcharged his batteries and opened the vents and gassed his batteries? I think that is why the instructions that came with the battery say never to exceed 14.4v charge rate. Maybe he didn't read the directions. Sounds like he blew up his brand new batteries. Is there a warranty that covers over charging?