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Tooling is finally done ! * Logo embossed in the ring. The frames will have the drilled holes sealed up and all the under frame air flow will go through this ring -- brings it in right at the coil. These will show up in production toward the end of the year.

I am continually pleased by the great numbers people are putting up with these drivers

Originally posted by Skip01 on my CACO forum : http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/showthread.php?t=53777 Therefore... I don't want to hear any "because it's a CRX" comments as this is a big ol' SUV ---------- SA-12 2 SAZ2500s @ 1ohm strapped 2.2cu @ 40hz 148.5 legal @ 46hz 150.4 sealed Kick @ 46hz Bout it.....Thanks Jacob Funny story...ever since i seen Jacob doing nuts scores with 1 15s and so on, than a few guys doing 1 SA12...i wanted too put my name in there....eventually got around too it. Emailed Jacob: "So what sub would u like me too put up a sick score with..z2 12 or SA12" "SA as i sell 10x more of them too Z2" And there we have it

Great

Official Ratings off SAX-200.4 : 200x4 at 4 ohms 300x4 at 2 ohms 400x4 at 1 ohm 600x2 at 4 ohms 800x2 at 2 ohms Actual tested - factory supplied figures : 210x4 at 4 ohms 350x4 at 2 ohms 465x4 at 1 ohm 665x2 at 4 ohms 925x2 at 2 ohms

Came down with a cold over the weekend so I'll be a little slow for a few days while recovering -- if you receive an email that makes no sense it's the cold medicine so just write me back and let me know you need clarification

For the intent of box design just use the D4 specs until they are posted -- they require the same boxes.

We sell very few re-cones for the SA line so I haven't ordered any more yet.

They are coming for you, Steve =)

Wow guys! Great great work Team Sundown Russia!

Aluminum SA coils are only available on re-cones, yes. Note to SSA you want signature and we can do it.

We have four 12s almost done at the shop, yes -- probably his. Just need dust caps.

I have started development on our Z v.3 woofer -- it is designed to increase thermal capacity a bit from the v.2 and also to be available for a lower price. We are outsourcing the build to our build house that we use for the SA series... BUT we are shipping USA made coils from Precision Econowind over to be used in them The advantage of USA coils ? The Z v.3 passed a 1500-watt 60 Hz sine wave test for 5 minutes with a Chinese coil... but they only take 300 degrees! Well... American coils take 500 degrees! So think that over a bit We are talking 66% higher temperature handling and the speaker already passed the thermal test with the lower temperature coil. Trade offs vs. the v.2 model ? Motor force factor is not quite as high as the Z v.2 model (wider gap, different coil, etc) -- but I worked hard to optimize the suspension to work as best as possible with the given motor power. ETA is May to June of 2011 -- but I can't help but share some early information! T/S specs of the D1 unit 15 inch (fairly fresh specs) : FS: 36.8 Hz Re: 2.19 ohms Qes: 0.57 Qms: 5.44 Qts: 0.52 Le: 2.54 mH Vas: 48.9 L BL: 17.23 NA Cms: 55 uM/N Mms: 334 grams Sens: 88.15 dB BL^2/RE: 135.5 HU Level / Power / SPL -10 / 110 / 140.0 -9 / 140 / 140.9 -6 / 330 / 143.6 -3 / 580 / 146.3 0 / 1460 / 149.3 1 / 1810 / 150.1 2 / 2210 / 150.7 3 / 2390 / 151.1 ---------- I tested it against a competing product that is quite popular in SPL -- which by the spec many would imagine to perform better... the specs of the other driver as follows : FS: 53.32 Hz Re: 2.10 ohms Qes: 0.66 Qms: 8.20 Qts: 0.61 Le: 2.02 mH Vas: 19.25 L BL: 20.75 NA Cms: 21 uM/N Mms: 407 grams Sens: 88.27 dB BL^2/RE: 205.0 Much higher motor force but very very hard suspension and more MMS. Results from competing product : HU Level / Power / SPL -10 / 110 / 139.3 -9 / 140 / 140.5 -6 / 300 / 143.4 -3 / 620 / 146.2 0 / 1240 / 148.8 1 / 1520 / 149.5 2 / 1840 / 150.2 3 / 2120 / 150.6 4 / 2330 / 151.0 No... I won't tell you what product this is. This product would probably excel for a very high frequency burp application, though. --- Notice that I had to go +1 more on the HU for the same power on the competing product ? The Z v.3 features a shorting ring so has less impedance rise than a woofer that does not. SPL performance is quite similar to the competing product despite the lower motor force factor... and the Z v.3 has ALOT more suspension travel so would pull ahead and very low frequencies when pushed to high stroke. In any event... I am quite pleased with it. I still have a good bit of work to do... as they are ~8 months out but I figured I'd share some early information. Until then the Z v.2 will remain available... the v.2 is actually a bit louder than the v.3 but does cost more than the v.3 will since we build the v.2 in house currently. A few photos : It does feature doubled up flat, tied down tinsel leads stock. ----- The Z v.3 features the same proven cooling design of the SA series Spider is a high quality 4-layer high nomex content unit : Cone / dust cap are like the SA-15 : ------ We will keep building the NS v.2 here -- but anything smaller will be built alongside the SA series. We can't keep up with all the orders anymore building two lines Both a good and bad thing!

8s through 18s... so yes.

Very nice !!!

They are rated 600 RMS... thermal performance is equal to the SA-10s and 12s, so you can look up quite a few reviews and make an educated determination

These are on pre-order now ! http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/showthread.php?t=52681 SAX-200.4 (NEW ITEM) Regular - $775 Pre-Order - $575 Early Pre-Order by Sept 30th - $525

Thanks all I think it will be a very successful sale!

Thanks doug I will look into grilles... good call guys.

We just finished out our 4th year in business here at Sundown -- we began selling the SAZ-1500D and SAX-100.2 back in August of 2006! Thanks to all of our customers for taking us this far and we look forward to the next four years! I am pleased to announce several sale items as well as several pre-orders opening up. To order any of the below items please PAYPAL us at [email protected] along with an order list (be specific) -- be SURE to have your address on the payment! You can also order from your favorite local or online dealer -- all dealers have the option to provide these sale and pre-order prices as well. This sale is for the USA ONLY!!! Prices below are shipped in the continental 48 states -- contact us for shipping quotes to AK and HI. ----- SALE ITEMS UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30th: SAX-125.2 Regular - $240 Sale - $200 SAX-100.4 Regular - $365 Sale - $320 SAX-1200D Regular - $375 Sale - $300 SAZ-3500D Regular - $1075 Sale - $865 ----- The below pre-order items are due in December... could be anywhere from early to late December. This is the ETA -- as with all pre-sales the possibility exists for delays and there will not be ANY refunds. So please do not pre-order unless you are prepared for the wait period. This pre-order will run until the end of November unless the amps arrive early -- in which case it ends when they arrive. We also have special EARLY pre-order prices for orders placed by the end of September! You can get even greater savings by getting in early! PRE-ORDER ITEMS: SAZ-4500D 3rd Run Regular - $1549 Pre-Order - $1200 Early Pre-Order by Sept 30th - $1100 SAZ-2500D 2nd Run Regular - $775 Pre-Order - $575 Early Pre-Order by Sept 30th - $525 SAX-200.4 (NEW ITEM) Regular - $775 Pre-Order - $575 Early Pre-Order by Sept 30th - $525 SAZ-1500D v.2 (NEW ITEM) Regular - $500 Pre-Order - $425 Early Pre-Order by Sept 30th - $400 ---------- Forum searches will bring up numerous tests on the 4500D and 2500D posted by us and customers. Information on the new SAZ-1500D v.2 can be seen here: SAZ-1500D v.2 Photos - Car Audio Classifieds More SAZ-1500D v.2 testing will be posted when we get another new sample unit in stock. Information on the new SAX-200.4 can be seen here: SAX-200.4 Prototypes In - Car Audio Classifieds ---------- Any further questions feel free to ask. I do expect the SAX-200.4 especially to be a hot item... if you want to get in on the first production run I suggest getting in on the early pre-order pricing. A good portion of these are going to our foreign distributors so this leaves a smaller than normal amount for the USA on the first run! The original SAZ-1500D v.1 is still in stock for now -- but is not going on sale. Anyone that needs to get more of the v.1 models to match what they currently have has this time to do so -- once these are gone we will only stock the v.2 version.

ETA is not available just yet... but we have been tinkering with them for a while.

Sundown Pro Mids | Facebook Up on the Sundown Facebook... includes details on estimated pricing.

Got a bit of 1 ohm testing done -- when we modified it I think something happened to it so we won't have any 0.5 testing yet until I get another sample in. Old 1500D produced 1540 watts after rise -- new 1500D produced 1750 watts after rise. Simply a max measurement. The results are just what I was looking for so far -- more power for the regular customer who runs at 1 ohm