solosickness Posted April 29, 2011 Report Share Posted April 29, 2011 OKK alot of people have asked this question... Whats better a small load or large load.? lol well thats kinda what im asking but... ok so if i take a load of 1ohm off a 10" sub, hook it up too an amp that's stable at 1ohm and puts out 1k watts at that impedance. now heres the twist. Im not asking what would be better on "THAT" AMP. Cuz i "KNOW" ill just get less power out the amp at 4 ohm DUE TOO THE LOAD. Now... If i go an grab another amp that does 1krms at 4ohmms. Now on overview of this is x1 sub "1ohm" on 1k rms x1 sub "4ohm" on 1k rms The 4ohm load will require alot more volts. and cost more money, cuz its harder too do 1k at 4ohms. has anyone ATUCALLY TESTED this and prooven it?!?! isnt my sub gunna be seeing more power overall?!?!? its deffinitly seeing more voltage. how can this not affect ANYHTING.just dont make sense too me. WHY?!?!?! Quote Ride Stats: 2003 Ford focus Zx3 Hatch Walled System X1 Solo X Kicker 18" "Enclosure: 7.8 cbft, Port Firing Into a Horn, On a 90*" X1 Rockford Fosgate 40001bd "Now a Warhorse On my dresser" x1 0g Big 3 x1 Kinetik 2400 "x4 Kinetik 2400's" x1 Kinetik 1800 x2 Kinetik Special Edition True Silver Battery Terminals x20 Gold Plated 0gauge 3/8 Ring Terminals x25 Total ft: KnuKonceptz Kable 1/0 Silver Pearl* 2500+ Strands. x15ft KnuKonceptz 8 Gauge. -Soon Too Be Walled Fav Quote: They Dont Feal Me, But They Feal Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solosickness Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 most people ask... whats better 4ohms on MY amp or 1 ohms on MY amp. IM ASKING... whats better 1sub at 1ohm to an amp stable at 1ohm for 1krms or 1sub at 4ohms on a more powerful amp that will do 1krms at 4ohms, witch is harder too do...but dont i get anything out of it?!?! Quote Ride Stats: 2003 Ford focus Zx3 Hatch Walled System X1 Solo X Kicker 18" "Enclosure: 7.8 cbft, Port Firing Into a Horn, On a 90*" X1 Rockford Fosgate 40001bd "Now a Warhorse On my dresser" x1 0g Big 3 x1 Kinetik 2400 "x4 Kinetik 2400's" x1 Kinetik 1800 x2 Kinetik Special Edition True Silver Battery Terminals x20 Gold Plated 0gauge 3/8 Ring Terminals x25 Total ft: KnuKonceptz Kable 1/0 Silver Pearl* 2500+ Strands. x15ft KnuKonceptz 8 Gauge. -Soon Too Be Walled Fav Quote: They Dont Feal Me, But They Feal Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBL CAMRY Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 1k at 4ohm is better for the speaker. it is a higher ac voltage, but lower ac amperage. Quote Designs for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdubii Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Plus an amp at 4 ohms will be a lot more efficient than any amp will be at 1 ohm Quote My build, four 15's walled: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/106855-07-tacoma-walled-off-with-4-15s/page__p__1487297#entry1487297 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solosickness Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Plus an amp at 4 ohms will be a lot more efficient than any amp will be at 1 ohm so teqnically im drawing less current throught my power wire due to the higher voltage? Quote Ride Stats: 2003 Ford focus Zx3 Hatch Walled System X1 Solo X Kicker 18" "Enclosure: 7.8 cbft, Port Firing Into a Horn, On a 90*" X1 Rockford Fosgate 40001bd "Now a Warhorse On my dresser" x1 0g Big 3 x1 Kinetik 2400 "x4 Kinetik 2400's" x1 Kinetik 1800 x2 Kinetik Special Edition True Silver Battery Terminals x20 Gold Plated 0gauge 3/8 Ring Terminals x25 Total ft: KnuKonceptz Kable 1/0 Silver Pearl* 2500+ Strands. x15ft KnuKonceptz 8 Gauge. -Soon Too Be Walled Fav Quote: They Dont Feal Me, But They Feal Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solosickness Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Plus an amp at 4 ohms will be a lot more efficient than any amp will be at 1 ohm so teqnically im drawing less current throught my power wire due to the higher voltage? wouldnt i get more decibles due too the larger load making the cone move more with less amps? Quote Ride Stats: 2003 Ford focus Zx3 Hatch Walled System X1 Solo X Kicker 18" "Enclosure: 7.8 cbft, Port Firing Into a Horn, On a 90*" X1 Rockford Fosgate 40001bd "Now a Warhorse On my dresser" x1 0g Big 3 x1 Kinetik 2400 "x4 Kinetik 2400's" x1 Kinetik 1800 x2 Kinetik Special Edition True Silver Battery Terminals x20 Gold Plated 0gauge 3/8 Ring Terminals x25 Total ft: KnuKonceptz Kable 1/0 Silver Pearl* 2500+ Strands. x15ft KnuKonceptz 8 Gauge. -Soon Too Be Walled Fav Quote: They Dont Feal Me, But They Feal Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxim Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Plus an amp at 4 ohms will be a lot more efficient than any amp will be at 1 ohm Ding ding ding. 1K rms at 4 ohms is gonna have less current draw and require a less robust electrical system than 1K rms at 1 ohm. This is purely due to how the amplifier works. 4ohms is much more efficient than 1 ohm. Many amps you'll see numbers like 500 rms @ 4 ohms 800 rms @ 2 ohms 1000 rms @ 1 ohm Lower impedances require more power due to lesser efficiency. That stated, it's still usually cheaper to get an amp to do 1K @ 1 or 2 ohms than to get one that does 1K at 4 ohms. The difference in electrical system requirements isn't big enough to make a cost difference. That really only comes into play if you're running below 1 ohm for competitions or feel the need to run .5 ohms daily. Quote wtf is lolcats? I'd def get a fat hooker if i had to resort to that kinda thing. I feel like they'd be grateful and work harder. Also its more bang for my buck, more real estate for my dollar if you catch my drift. its like the Costco of streetwalkers. I was hoping for 150 . I was hoping she would let me put it in her butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solosickness Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) Plus an amp at 4 ohms will be a lot more efficient than any amp will be at 1 ohm Ding ding ding. 1K rms at 4 ohms is gonna have less current draw and require a less robust electrical system than 1K rms at 1 ohm. This is purely due to how the amplifier works. 4ohms is much more efficient than 1 ohm. Many amps you'll see numbers like 500 rms @ 4 ohms 800 rms @ 2 ohms 1000 rms @ 1 ohm Lower impedances require more power due to lesser efficiency. That stated, it's still usually cheaper to get an amp to do 1K @ 1 or 2 ohms than to get one that does 1K at 4 ohms. The difference in electrical system requirements isn't big enough to make a cost difference. That really only comes into play if you're running below 1 ohm for competitions or feel the need to run .5 ohms daily. FINALLY I GET IT!!! so that all means amps like the jblgti6000 that does alittle over 8k rms at 4ohms, simply does the same thing watts wise, just draws alot less power thru my wire too supply the amp. so the difference is... hifonics sampson at 1ohm does 8k but draws current a different way. the jbl is going too be better cuz its gunna draw less amps, to do the same power cuz the voltage makes up the difference? thus the difference isnt seen on the meter, but on the alternator? lol YAY correct? Edited April 30, 2011 by solosickness Quote Ride Stats: 2003 Ford focus Zx3 Hatch Walled System X1 Solo X Kicker 18" "Enclosure: 7.8 cbft, Port Firing Into a Horn, On a 90*" X1 Rockford Fosgate 40001bd "Now a Warhorse On my dresser" x1 0g Big 3 x1 Kinetik 2400 "x4 Kinetik 2400's" x1 Kinetik 1800 x2 Kinetik Special Edition True Silver Battery Terminals x20 Gold Plated 0gauge 3/8 Ring Terminals x25 Total ft: KnuKonceptz Kable 1/0 Silver Pearl* 2500+ Strands. x15ft KnuKonceptz 8 Gauge. -Soon Too Be Walled Fav Quote: They Dont Feal Me, But They Feal Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solosickness Posted April 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 (edited) SO WAIT A MINUTE... SO THE QUESTION IM REALLY TRYING TO ASK IS... HOW THE FUCK DOES THE JBLGTI6000 DO more power with higher ohms? or it it just a very magical amp that other compainies should look into cuz that is BEAST. lol im not a fan of buying more alternators... just increase voltage, i find it stupid too run 6-7 runs of 0gauge wire when i can just run two lines, and do the same thing. I think other companies should realllly look into this. the jblgti6000 is a step into future amplifers in my opinion. Edited April 30, 2011 by solosickness Quote Ride Stats: 2003 Ford focus Zx3 Hatch Walled System X1 Solo X Kicker 18" "Enclosure: 7.8 cbft, Port Firing Into a Horn, On a 90*" X1 Rockford Fosgate 40001bd "Now a Warhorse On my dresser" x1 0g Big 3 x1 Kinetik 2400 "x4 Kinetik 2400's" x1 Kinetik 1800 x2 Kinetik Special Edition True Silver Battery Terminals x20 Gold Plated 0gauge 3/8 Ring Terminals x25 Total ft: KnuKonceptz Kable 1/0 Silver Pearl* 2500+ Strands. x15ft KnuKonceptz 8 Gauge. -Soon Too Be Walled Fav Quote: They Dont Feal Me, But They Feal Me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty959 Posted April 30, 2011 Report Share Posted April 30, 2011 Keep in mind that lower current to your speakers doesn't mean less current through your power wire. The only reason it might (in almost all cases would) be less is the efficiency. Quote 2013 Subaru BRZ12" Orion HCCA on AQ 22001967 mustang restoration project: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/110765-mustang-restoration-build-2011-edition/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/therusty959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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