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[kryptonite]

sick build man! I wish i didn't have to deal with salt here in buffalo, rust is an evil bastard otherwise i'd love to do something similar to this. Major props!

[scooter99]

I can understand guys! The fact is, I've got another trunk I'm gonna use in the future when I do the trunk amp rack. It's gonna get covered with CFV and an Si wing! This one I have to admit I already F-ed up (I'm an idiot sometimes at later hours). So I'm not so worried. But it's also not like I'm throwing it up there. I'm very careful when I set things on it. The reason I did and do is to show the color match. But I understand your feelings on it!

Thanks for all the pos. comments

[scooter99]

Alright guys, I was home today cause my daughters bed was supposed to be delivered for her birthday. She turns 5 in a couple weeks. Anyway, I got her room all ready and then I just couldn't stand it anymore. I've been thinking about this to get my mind off the tablet stuff, since there's nothing I can really do about it at the moment but think about it.

So here's what I did. I just couldn't help it.

Got out the foam, tools, and sub!

MOCK UP TIME!!

All the pieces are here and ready to be put together!

Looks like something out of a sci fi movie!

[scooter99]

But here's the end result! A mocked up sub at a fraction, a pfffff, of the weight!

Now, it's time to get busy! WOOHOO!! Can you tell I'm excited about this!!!!!??????!!!!

Got my floor cut, and the back wall cut.

Then I traced and cut out the center cut out pass thru.

Sides

Now I took it out and started taping it together. I said originally that I was going to use hot glue for the foam mock ups. But I found out later, that the glue just melts through the foam after a certain point. So, tape it is!

Just keep watching!

Oh yeah getting closer!

[scooter99]

Taped up the "basket" of the sub mock up, cause I need to fill the enclosure with packing peanuts for my air space measurement.

Here is the box of peanuts!

Box measures 15" long by:

12" wide by:

10" deep for a total of 1.04 cu ft total. I also had some extra in a bag that I found in the corner among all the misc stuff.

So I got it into the enclosure, and shook it around to settle it in, and level it out. This is what I ended up with.

So I was left with 2 1/2 x 12 1/2 x 10 1/2 which equals a total of .19 cu ft.

So I added the 1.04 cu ft and the 0.19 cu ft and got a total of 1.23 cu ft!

[scooter99]

So I put her in the ride! There she is, the way she's gonna sit, mock up sub and all! HA!

Oh but wait................there's more! What is this!?!?!?!

What the hell is that for? Why is it in the middle there? Hmmmmmmmmm, what could it possibly be!?!

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BAM!!! Here was my big idea! I love it, I love the way it potentially can look! I love the thought of what I can do with it! I love it!

I didn't put a face on the enclosures. But that's ok!

So here's the idea I'm after and I need to figure it out. I'd love nothing more than to have it suspended on wire or some kind of cable system or something like that, but my biggest issue is the wire, i.e. RCA's etc. I still am going to have those to deal with, so I may have to have some kind of arms for it. Would be cool if I could do some kind of Bars that I can paint black or orange or something like that, maybe galvanized pipe, and then cut the sides off and the wires can pass through there. I'll think of something! Sturdy and stealthy is what I'm after!

Next is an issue I didn't see while I was doing the pieces in the car. I have the upper left and right back corners of the enclosure that hit the corners of the trunk. Now I think I can get around this problem by cutting the corners just for clearance, just enough to slide into the space right up to the back panel. Then, from the inside, I can put a piece to bridge that gap, and then I'll be fiberglassing and resining the corners anyway, so that should make up in strength.

I also am pretty sure I'll have to do one in phase and one out of phase. Like a push pull type of deal.

So there it is, the proverbial "cat" is out of the bag! Now, comes the response! Let me have it!

[Blackedout]

I'm excited about this. I must've missed it but I was never under the impression that you were going with a 4th order. I think I remember mentioning that I thought it was a great idea. One thing I'd change I would change the angled baffles, seeing as there's no real reason to angle the baffles. In addition to that, the sealed side should be smaller than the ported side, on paper. Doesn't look to be the case in your enclosure. But I won't be the one to tell you it wont work.... Looks great man.

[Exerstine]

i love this build man.. it just seems like everyday your just out purchasing something else to make this ride even better. ive been looking for a civic like yours for awhile now.. people just want too much more than what im comfortable paying. anyways GOOD JOB BRO!

[Blackedout]

Yes as mentioned by angling the subs and constricting the airspace like that you are going in the direction of a 4th order, I would try to avoid doing that IMHO (unless you want to wall off and are getting Mike Singer to help you!), with the BitONE in the way it makes it that much more difficult to calculate things properly. I'm pretty good with box design/simulation now and I wouldn't want to touch a 4th order without years of experience in this kind of thing.

It isn't a matter of avoiding it, it's a matter of getting the ratio right. I think a 4th order would be a great enclosure for this car and this application. 4th orders are known for playing flat and playing music well. It doesn't take a genius to get a 4th order right. It might take a little time though.

[scooter99]

I'm not sure if maybe I'm not explaining it correctly, or if I'm miss understanding some of you guys, or if I'm maybe just doing a 4th order application as it's been suggested and I don't know it. But this is the way I'm going with this. Here's a marked up picture:

I only angled the subs so that they would be seen better for showing. Otherwise they kind of get lost behind the bit one. I'm also thinking of adding some acrylic rings between them and the baffle and back lighting them, as well as something around the bit one. I'm just not sure how I'm going to pull it off just yet.