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ANNNDDDD you guys all caught me, my whole goal on this thread is to get some kid who doesnt have much money to spend everything he has on new stuff for his car. =D I love milking kids for their money that I will never see.

I work for 'the man' just trying to make America even more broke one kid at a time.

Damn....next victim please???

:lol: You just dont get it...

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If you want it done right:

1-remove the cap

2-buy a high output alt

3-redo the big three with 0g

4-second batt

other things to check:

-your stock alt and batt

-your connections across everything

-check your ground again (factory bolts are not good grounds)

-check the levels on your deck and amp

I think everyone already hit all of that stuff though.

Good luck man.

Nowhere in there did I see you mention anything about that not being the right option at this time. Leading back to the fact that this could have resulted in his spending far more money than he needed to. Sorry guy. In this one you are dead wrong. Period.

There is no problem in making a mistake. Just own up to it and move on.

On that note I'm done with this thread.

You may be offended by the above. Don't take it personally, I'm just abrasive.

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"If you've seen 750 watt amps dropping a car down to 9-10 volts there is simply something wrong with their charging system " <---Clearly why I suggested what I said.

And again IVE SAID THIS MAY NOT BE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR HIM RIGHT NOW.

Fucking read people.

There being something WRONG as in a PROBLEM with their charging system doesnt mean rip it all out and try again. It means find the one problem and fix it. 9 times out of 10 its a bad battery. Take $200 and buy a GOOD XS or Kinetic or other audio based AGM battery and leave it at that. There is normally no need for something else. You suggested replacing everything and beef it up to withstand several thousand watts. Its unnecessary to say the least dude, thats what were pointing out. Your defending a moot point. We understand its not the best solution which is why we are saying otherwise. You were trying to help, which is AWESOME and what this forum is for. Its helped me LOADS of times, but ive also been given bad advice but smart enough to research it more and decide on the right one. Theres enough misinformation on the site without someone that wants to help giving people the wrong advice. All the guy wants is a solution to his problem, not to run his house generator off his car. Just tone down the suggestions and help the guy with a solution instead of telling him he might need a $1000 to run his amp thats MAYBE pushing 500 watts wired at 2 ohms + box rise.

And once again, I never said he NEEDED to do these things and they were not in a specific order. Also, I would hope he would research it before he just went and did it, thats common sense.

I never said he would need $1000 dollars to make his system run. I clearly said "Im not saying its not a bad batt, it probably is".

So before you try and rip my SUGGESTION apart, read everything I posted please.

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If you want it done right:

1-remove the cap

2-buy a high output alt

3-redo the big three with 0g

4-second batt

other things to check:

-your stock alt and batt

-your connections across everything

-check your ground again (factory bolts are not good grounds)

-check the levels on your deck and amp

I think everyone already hit all of that stuff though.

Good luck man.

If he wants it done right, people like you shouldn't be giving out advice... What are you, 14? Try reading once. The OP has a fucking 1000 watt amp man... Said before he had no issues with having the cap, which means its not the cap... Why the fuck would you suggest a high output alternator for a 1000 watt system? WTF!! I agree with doing the big 3/4 in 1/0 AWG wire... Again, why the fuck would the OP need a second battery? If you don't know what you're talking about, just don't fucking post... Sorry to single you out, but I'm so sick of seeing motherfuckers on here giving out shitty fucking advice. Not having a clue wtf they are doing...

1. you most likely have a bad battery and you dont ned to get an xs power kinetic optima for 1000 watts. to keep it cheap get a good ole duralast battery, you dont need a pricey car audio battery for 1000 watts.

2. make sure the 4 gauge you have is not some k-mart, abc warehouse, cheap 4ga thats actually 8gauge, get a good beefy 4gauge wire and do your big 3 upgrade with a good 0 gauge wire, i like welding cable the best. and if you can run 0 gauge welding wire from the battery to the cap if you are bent on keeping it then 4 gauge to the amp. make sure the cap is SUUPER close to the amp and make sure ALL your grounds or very good. i have had good luck with the strut towers as grounds.

3. make sure all grounds are polished bare metal with an almost mirror finish.

4. check your alt it sounds like its good but if its not just replace it with a regular stock alternator, for 1000 watts you dont need a pricey high output alt a stock should be ok.

so to recap, new duralast battery, good quality wire, good grounds, good working alt

I agree with most everything this guy said, short of polishing the metal to a mirror like shine... You don't need to do that... Lol... Just take it down to bare metal, sandpaper, grinder will work...

Using good wire, he means get something that is AWG standard... And something that is NOT CCA... You want OFC...

You dont need to be an asshole.

I dont give a fuck how many watts you have, if your having voltage drop, a HO alt and second battery WILL help.

Thats the way it should be done. And you cant deny that. I never said it wasnt a bad stock battery, Im sure it is. But why not get a REAL electrical system? And how do you know he wont want to upgrade and then all that shit is already done?

Oh yeah, and you DONT fucking know me, or what I do everyday. I know what the fuck I am doing and this may not be the best advice for him, but its the right fucking way to do it.And Im tired of seeing assholes like you who think there better than everyone else. So insted of acting like a cunt to people, why dont you just post your disagreement respectfully.

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So , again, had it not been for another member putting you on blast, would you have returned to the thread and clarified?

Sounds like backtracking to me.

You may be offended by the above. Don't take it personally, I'm just abrasive.

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^^^^ he asked for a cheap way because he just had a kid..........gives me the impression hes not going to want to spend the money it takes to beef up his electrical

Ok, so then dude could have just said that insted of going bitch mode at me.

My bad for trying to steer him in the right direction, just because he doesnt have the money now, doesnt mean he wont some day or wont want to know a good way to do it. (This isnt meant to sound rude or like Im snapping at you or anything).

Dude, it's 1000 watts. Unless you are driving a complete shitbox (in which case, good luck finding a good alt) you don't reallyneed a high output alt. At worst he would be looking at adding a battery.

And the system has been installed for several months before the issue cropped up. It isn't an issue of too much power. There is an issue somewhere. The problem is diagnosis and solving it.

And I can't blame him for bitching at you. There has been a shit ton of misinformation being given on here. And as stupid and noobish as I am, I've had to correct people. There is a serious issue here.

Im just saying though, why would you add another battery if the alt he has cant even keep up with that one?

And if its been installed for months, he is having something go bad. So whats gonna stop it from doing it again.....better stuff.

Im just giving some advice, people dont have to use it AND if they disagree with what I have to say, they could nicely say why they disagree insted of being a fuckface about it.

just sayin

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So , again, had it not been for another member putting you on blast, would you have returned to the thread and clarified?

Sounds like backtracking to me.

You know what, Im not back tracking, yes I did need to add that which is good that someone pointed it out so i could clarify.

But again, people dont need to be assholes about it.

*Cough cough*

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^^^^ he asked for a cheap way because he just had a kid..........gives me the impression hes not going to want to spend the money it takes to beef up his electrical

Ok, so then dude could have just said that insted of going bitch mode at me.

My bad for trying to steer him in the right direction, just because he doesnt have the money now, doesnt mean he wont some day or wont want to know a good way to do it. (This isnt meant to sound rude or like Im snapping at you or anything).

Dude, it's 1000 watts. Unless you are driving a complete shitbox (in which case, good luck finding a good alt) you don't reallyneed a high output alt. At worst he would be looking at adding a battery.

And the system has been installed for several months before the issue cropped up. It isn't an issue of too much power. There is an issue somewhere. The problem is diagnosis and solving it.

And I can't blame him for bitching at you. There has been a shit ton of misinformation being given on here. And as stupid and noobish as I am, I've had to correct people. There is a serious issue here.

Im just saying though, why would you add another battery if the alt he has cant even keep up with that one?

And if its been installed for months, he is having something go bad. So whats gonna stop it from doing it again.....better stuff.

Im just giving some advice, people dont have to use it AND if they disagree with what I have to say, they could nicely say why they disagree insted of being a fuckface about it.

just sayin

And the Op knows this...how? All he knows is some guy on the Internet told him the right way of doing this is to spend a bunch of money. I like doing hints the right way. Doing things the right way means my car won't burn down because I'm cheap.

See where this is going? Not everyone knows enough to make those kinds of decisions.

You may be offended by the above. Don't take it personally, I'm just abrasive.

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^^^^ he asked for a cheap way because he just had a kid..........gives me the impression hes not going to want to spend the money it takes to beef up his electrical

Ok, so then dude could have just said that insted of going bitch mode at me.

My bad for trying to steer him in the right direction, just because he doesnt have the money now, doesnt mean he wont some day or wont want to know a good way to do it. (This isnt meant to sound rude or like Im snapping at you or anything).

Dude, it's 1000 watts. Unless you are driving a complete shitbox (in which case, good luck finding a good alt) you don't reallyneed a high output alt. At worst he would be looking at adding a battery.

And the system has been installed for several months before the issue cropped up. It isn't an issue of too much power. There is an issue somewhere. The problem is diagnosis and solving it.

And I can't blame him for bitching at you. There has been a shit ton of misinformation being given on here. And as stupid and noobish as I am, I've had to correct people. There is a serious issue here.

Im just saying though, why would you add another battery if the alt he has cant even keep up with that one?

And if its been installed for months, he is having something go bad. So whats gonna stop it from doing it again.....better stuff.

Im just giving some advice, people dont have to use it AND if they disagree with what I have to say, they could nicely say why they disagree insted of being a fuckface about it.

just sayin

And the Op knows this...how? All he knows is some guy on the Internet told him the right way of doing this is to spend a bunch of money. I like doing hints the right way. Doing things the right way means my car won't burn down because I'm cheap.

See where this is going? Not everyone knows enough to make those kinds of decisions.

Again, common sense says 'do research'.....or atleast it should.

Damn people, it was a SUGGESTION on how to fix the problem the right way. Yes its not cheap, yes it takes more work, no it may not be what he needs right now. But when he keeps eating through batteries because he has an 80 amp alt and his system pulls 100-120 amps. The idea to fix it is there. All Im saying.

I get your trying to help him out, we all are. But you guys dont have to be fucking pricks about it.

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Again, common sense says 'do research'.....or atleast it should.

Damn people, it was a SUGGESTION on how to fix the problem the right way. Yes its not cheap, yes it takes more work, no it may not be what he needs right now. But when he keeps eating through batteries because he has an 80 amp alt and his system pulls 100-120 amps. The idea to fix it is there. All Im saying.

I get your trying to help him out, we all are. But you guys dont have to be fucking pricks about it.

why should I research? I've just been told how to do what I want. All my research has been done for me.

You may be offended by the above. Don't take it personally, I'm just abrasive.

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