detroitdiesel Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 I just purchased 4 new (1999) Orion xtr pro 12s, and am wanting to start planning a box for them. I was thinking around 6 cu.ft airspace with a square blowthrough port tuned at around 30 hz? Does this sound reasonable, or should I go a little bigger? They will be powered by an audiopipe ap30001d set at 2000rms @2ohm. As well this setup is going into a gmc safari van. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM_Designs Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Do you have any specs? Quote Ryan Miskin - owner of RAM Designs I have my PM's turned off, please email at <script data-cfhash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script> 2200+ designs since March 2011... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitdiesel Posted July 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 (edited) Do you have any specs? Yes sir. SENSITIVITY @2.83V/1m----94dBS 88dBP Fs FREE AIR RESONANCE----24 Hz Qms MECHANICAL Q---------9.345 Qes ELECTRICAL Q --------0.339 Qts TOTAL Q--------------0.327 BL FORCE FACTOR----------9.85P 19.7S SD PISTON AREA-----------522 CM2/81in2 VAS----------------------134 LITRES/4.73cu.ft X-MAX--------------------10.5 mm/.41in1 RMS POWER----------------500w MAX POWER----------------1000w BASKET DISPLACEMENT------244CU.IN/4.0Liters VOICE COIL---------------2.5 Inch Edited July 26, 2011 by detroitdiesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM_Designs Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 Qts is reasonably low, but Vas is rather high. Without modeling it I'd guess 8-9ft^2 with a 30hz tuning should work well. Quote Ryan Miskin - owner of RAM Designs I have my PM's turned off, please email at <script data-cfhash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script> 2200+ designs since March 2011... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM_Designs Posted July 26, 2011 Report Share Posted July 26, 2011 It's actually rather odd for a 12" sub with a Qts value that low to have a Vas that high. Quote Ryan Miskin - owner of RAM Designs I have my PM's turned off, please email at <script data-cfhash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script> 2200+ designs since March 2011... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitdiesel Posted July 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 Sounds good, thanks for the help. Will these odd parameters have any negative effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM_Designs Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I don't see it being a big issue, just the Qts and vas values want to pull the box size in opposite directions. I'll actually model it when I get home, if you'd like. Quote Ryan Miskin - owner of RAM Designs I have my PM's turned off, please email at <script data-cfhash='f9e31' type="text/javascript"> /* */</script> 2200+ designs since March 2011... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitdiesel Posted July 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 That would've great if it's not a big deal. What does modeling it tell you, like exact enclosure size needed? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitdiesel Posted August 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) Ok, I entered the 4 12inch Subs into winISD, and it recommends 9.7 cu.ft, and 29hz tuning. With the motor being limited in xmax, wouldn't i be better off sticking the subs into a box more along the the lines of 7-8 cuft.? If i go too big, wouldn't i run the risk of bottoming out the subs at low end frequencies at rated power?? Also, i am going to try and make this box in sketch up, so i will post it up before i start building. Edited August 10, 2011 by detroitdiesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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