Purplehaze Posted September 30, 2011 Report Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Okay, so for the past several months I have been planning my rebuild, and I recently pre-ordered a new DC5.0K. Now I'm just trying to decide what I want to do for subs. I asked this same question about a SMD and got a very good response, so now I want to know the same thing about a DC level 5. I don't really know much about them except they are BEASTY SPL oriented subs. So my question is, in your opinion, how would a single 18" level 5 do in a properly designed 4th order, with a 5.0K seeing proper electric? Is this a "bad idea"? My thought was, if I did the sub inverted in a 4th order, I could possibly still get all the potential from the level 5, and help it see all it's SQ potential. If this is wrong, please tell me why? And thank you for you time! BTW - In case anyone is wondering, I am also leaning heavily on 4 - 18' level 4's, or 2 - 18" XL's. Decisions, decisions! Edited October 2, 2011 by Purplehaze Quote Kickin' Cruiser Seller Feedback Stage 3 Dash, Door Panels,4th Order wall 4 - 15'son a DC 5.0K 2 DC 5.0K'sSolo X 15 (v.2) Sub Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwright27 Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 do the level 4s with 5 softparts. the level 5 wont help its "SQ" being inverted probably hurt it, as youll hear everything going on. the level 4s will be louder, youre talking 4 times the cone area. Quote 2006 F-150 4 DC XL M2 18's Walled Daily Driver XS Power 4 DC 3.5kw Team DC Team S.P.L. Lot of Audio Technix and 1/0 DC Audio Dealer American Bass Dealer XS Power Dealer Audio Technix Dealer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DodgerCannon Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Arnt 5s more suited to 6th order? Do 4 level 4s, will be louder than the 5 and smd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted October 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 Okay guys, thanks for the input so far. dwight I can see what you are saying about being able to hear "everything going on" Yeah the 4 - 18 idea is a good one for sure, I'm just exploring all options! I'd really like to hear Rusty or Rob chime in... Quote Kickin' Cruiser Seller Feedback Stage 3 Dash, Door Panels,4th Order wall 4 - 15'son a DC 5.0K 2 DC 5.0K'sSolo X 15 (v.2) Sub Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AA98hoe Posted October 1, 2011 Report Share Posted October 1, 2011 mr p had 4 lvl 4s in a 4th order then he switched to 5s and was stupid loud. why not just do xls? then you can have a loud musical sub Quote TEAM DC AUDIO VEHICLE:98 chevy tahoe 2wd 3-4 drop HEADUNIT:alpine 9886 PREAMP:arcaudio FRONT STAGE:4-6 1/2s selinium,DD component set and 4-selinium tweeters in each door KICKPANELS:jl audio 5 1/4 REAR DOORS: dd components 6 1/2s HIGHS AMPS:zapco 750.2 on front doors,zapco an another 750.2 on kicks and rear doors SUBS:4-ascendant audio 18s with 5 spiders in a custom box built by KINGSUV SUB AMP: 2-dc7.5s ALTERNATORS: 3-mechmans 1- 425comp, 1-smd spec350, 1-270 with adj voltage harness on custom dc bracket WIRE:10-runs 0g front to back BATTERIES:6-d1400s TL results:157.1 at 38hz and 156.8 at headrest score @37hz. STATE AND NATIONAL RECORD IN MECA S5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 mr p had 4 lvl 4s in a 4th order then he switched to 5s and was stupid loud. why not just do xls? then you can have a loud musical sub XL's are the one I keep coming back to. Maybe get 2 - XL18's for my 5k now, and 2 more later for another 5k? If I do that then I could do a traditional wall for the 2 for now, but build it so that later I could just remove the baffle to rebuild as a 4th order??? I need to hear the XL's in person. I have never heard them or Level 5's in person to be honest. Oh and thanks for the feedback! Quote Kickin' Cruiser Seller Feedback Stage 3 Dash, Door Panels,4th Order wall 4 - 15'son a DC 5.0K 2 DC 5.0K'sSolo X 15 (v.2) Sub Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 So, does anyone have any other opinion on this? Quote Kickin' Cruiser Seller Feedback Stage 3 Dash, Door Panels,4th Order wall 4 - 15'son a DC 5.0K 2 DC 5.0K'sSolo X 15 (v.2) Sub Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supercharged DCs Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd like to see the 4 Lv4 18 build! Can't imagine that in a PT Cruiser I don't see a Lv5 18 being louder than 4 Lv4 18s, but I'm retarded so idk. But if you want a Lv5 18 hmu. Quote Bassless once again. Can't seem to keep a system for more than a few weeks Saving for a '06 Nissan 350z, look for build around June 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shown50 Posted October 2, 2011 Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 I've heard that lvl 5s don't do well in 4th orders but you might wanna pm owners1 he'd know I think his was a 4th order iirr don't take my word for it tho Quote NEW 2011 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ 2 XS Power D3400 Kicker HyperFlex 1/0 Soundstream Vir 7870bt OLD 2010 Jeep Patriot 2 Murdered Out Black DC LVL 4 15s With XL Recones(with 1 extra spider pack a piece) 1 Crescendo BC 3500 1 MB Quart 60.4 1 Set RF T1 6x9s Up Front 1 XS Power D3400(Front) 1 XS Power D3400(Back) 2 runs of 1/0 Kicker Hyperflex SoundStream Vir 7870bt Fat Mat Rattle Trap Xtreme [www.youtube.com/tntravelers33] FEEDBACK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplehaze Posted October 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'd like to see the 4 Lv4 18 build! Can't imagine that in a PT Cruiser I don't see a Lv5 18 being louder than 4 Lv4 18s, but I'm retarded so idk. But if you want a Lv5 18 hmu. Thanks man, I have all but completely decided against the level 5. Now it's pretty much down to 2 - XL18's or 4 - level 4-18's. But if I go XL I could still add 2 more later on another 5K??? Also, 4 - lvl4's will cost me more than 2 XL's right now, but I really do want to do the 4 18's in the PT. Cause yeah it will be sic!!! But just knowing myself, I am gonna want another 5K later on. Guess I could put 2 - 5K's on 4 - level 4's, maybe if they are built w/ level 5 parts????? AS you can see, I am deep in thought on this subject! Thanks for your help! Quote Kickin' Cruiser Seller Feedback Stage 3 Dash, Door Panels,4th Order wall 4 - 15'son a DC 5.0K 2 DC 5.0K'sSolo X 15 (v.2) Sub Build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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