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I think it is a decimal place/units problem.

You have Sd in cm, XMax in mm, and I think Vd may need to be meters^3. I don't have the book in front of me to check it.

There are online calculators everywhere if you run a google search.

Current system:

1997 Blazer - (4) Customer Fi NEO subs with (8) American Bass Elite 2800.1s

Previous systems:

2000 Suburban - (4) BTL 15's and (4) IA 40.1's = 157.7 dB at 37 Hz.

1992 Astro Van - (6) BTL 15's and (6) IA 40.1's = 159.7 dB at 43 Hz.

Posted

I think it is a decimal place/units problem.

You have Sd in cm, XMax in mm, and I think Vd may need to be meters^3. I don't have the book in front of me to check it.

There are online calculators everywhere if you run a google search.

Yeah that's the problem.

The inputs need to be converted to meters and square meters.

And the forumla given is quite a bit less conservative than Richard Small's formula

I did it for one sub at 35hz and got a 6in diameter port as the output, which is 28.27 in^2 of port area.

Mulitplying by four gives you 113.1 in^2

Which is way too much.

Using the better formula for one sub at 35hz:

VntFrm2.gif

A 4.25" in diameter port was the output. Which is 14.18 in^2 of port area. Multiplying by 4 gives, 56.74 in^2 of total port area.

Which is much better.

Posted

Quoting your first post:

I'm building a box ... 35 hertz. That ports the port area at 17531 cubic inches. Is this too much?

I just want to point out that you can't measure area in cubic units.

Posted

I think it is a decimal place/units problem.

You have Sd in cm, XMax in mm, and I think Vd may need to be meters^3. I don't have the book in front of me to check it.

There are online calculators everywhere if you run a google search.

Yeah that's the problem.

The inputs need to be converted to meters and square meters.

And the forumla given is quite a bit less conservative than Richard Small's formula

I did it for one sub at 35hz and got a 6in diameter port as the output, which is 28.27 in^2 of port area.

Mulitplying by four gives you 113.1 in^2

Which is way too much.

Using the better formula for one sub at 35hz:

VntFrm2.gif

A 4.25" in diameter port was the output. Which is 14.18 in^2 of port area. Multiplying by 4 gives, 56.74 in^2 of total port area.

Which is much better.

Thank you, this sounds much more realistic. My previous set ups have been with 18" subs and 15" subs, so I always went for the large ports. I have never run more then 2 subs, and never subs this small. I would think that too much port area would be like playing free air, and too little would be choking the subs down.

06 300C 5.7 Hemi

K&N CAI

JVC KW-AVX640 6.1" DVD

DC Audio 3.5k

6 DC Audio 8"s

6 cubes 8" aero port at 32hrtz

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183798-chrysler-300c-8-build/?p=2731834#entry2731834

Posted

Quoting your first post:

I'm building a box ... 35 hertz. That ports the port area at 17531 cubic inches. Is this too much?

I just want to point out that you can't measure area in cubic units.

Thanks. :ehh:

06 300C 5.7 Hemi

K&N CAI

JVC KW-AVX640 6.1" DVD

DC Audio 3.5k

6 DC Audio 8"s

6 cubes 8" aero port at 32hrtz

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183798-chrysler-300c-8-build/?p=2731834#entry2731834

Posted

A 4.25" in diameter port was the output. Which is 14.18 in^2 of port area. Multiplying by 4 gives, 56.74 in^2 of total port area.

Which is much better.

So two 6" ports would be just about right. 56.52. Seemed like a lot. the box seems awkward. But as long as it works.

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06 300C 5.7 Hemi

K&N CAI

JVC KW-AVX640 6.1" DVD

DC Audio 3.5k

6 DC Audio 8"s

6 cubes 8" aero port at 32hrtz

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/183798-chrysler-300c-8-build/?p=2731834#entry2731834

Posted

that looks crazy... lol

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