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The "1500" watts amplifier CHALLENGE!!!


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In advance, i have results of:

Hifonics BRZ1200.1 (1200 @ 14.4v)

Digital Designs M1b (1200 @ 11.9v)

Digital Designs M2a (1600 @ 11.9v)

Audiopipe AP1500.1 (1500 @ 14.4v)

I´ll post those results as soon as i can TODAY :)

I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion!

2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/

8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/

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Ok guys, i´m gonna start posting things over here, i´m having some problems with my phone and i have a few pictures in there so you have to be patient, results so far!!!!

Mechman 270A alternator, 4 runs of 0 gauge, big4 and single Kinetik HC2400 under the hood.

Box: 5.6 cubic feet with 3 6" Aeros tuned at 39 hz

Subs: x2 Digital Designs 2512 D2

Every amplifier on this test has a very nice and clean signal, no distortion AT ALL, also, posting TL scores on the test to show off everything, i want you to take something in mind, i´m only posting the best TL scores i could get with each amplifier, i had to play with a few frequencies until i found the peak with each amp...

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First at bat : Audiopipe AP1500.1 wired at 0.5 ohms

Price : about 160$

Class D Mono Amplifier

600 x 1 RMS @ 4 Ohm

950 x 1 RMS @ 2 Ohm

1500 x 1 RMS @ 1 Ohm

1 Ohm load stable

Built In Variable 12 dB/ Octave Crossover

Bass Boost 0-12dB

MOSFET Power Supply 3 Way Protection

Overload protection

Overheat protection

Variable low pass electronic crossover

Variable subsonic filter.

Built-in variable phase shift.

Distortions: <0.2% thd

Signal to noise ratio: 70db

Input level: 0.2-5v

Bass boost frequency: 30-80hz

Low pass filter: 40-180hz

Subsonic filter: 5-50hz

Frequency response: 8-180hz

Dimensions: 7" x 2.5" x 16"

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Clamp results :

Voltage drop: 13.6v

44.6 Volts

41.7 Amps

44.6 x 41.7 = 1859 watts

44.6 / 41.7 = 1.06 ohms

Termlab score, sealed on the dash peak @ 42 hz:

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I know it looks like shit haha, it´s a video i have on the computer and had to take a picture with my phone since i´m having lots of problems with it and the computer also lol

Second at bat: Hifonics BRZ1200.1 wired at 0.5 ohms (don´t have a picture right now)

Price: About 160$

Power Hadling:

450 Watt x 1 Channel @ 4 Ohm

900 Watt x 1 Channel @ 2 Ohm

1200 Watt x 1 Channel @ 1 Ohm

High Efficiency Super Digital D-Class Technology

4/2/1 Ohm Stable

Bass EQ with 45Hz Bass Boost

Variable Low Pass, Subsonic Filter, Phase Shift and Level Control

Balanced Line Input for MX accessories and Line Drivers

RCA Inputs and Outputs

Built-In System Diagnostics

Illuminated Hifonics Logo

Clamp results:

Voltage drop : 13.9.v

39.2 Volts

35.5 Amps

39.2 x 35.5 = 1391 watts

39.2 / 35.5 = 1.1 ohms

Termlab score, sealed on the dash at 42 hz:

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I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion!

2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/

8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/

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I don´t know about you guys, but those 160$ for an Audiopipe it´s just a crazy bang for the buck, i could get 1800 watts from that amplifier without any clipping, it´s a little bit power hunger IMO but damn, i felt in love of that amplifier right away lol, i don´t know much about the amount of daily abuse it can take though...

My opinions about the hifonics BRZ1200.1 , it definitely can give you rated power if you can keep your voltage drops at minimun, it´s no way near as powerful as the Audiopipe1500.1 , but i can tell you this, definitely not a power hunger , and also, i used a pair of bxi2610D´s for almost 2 years with GREAT success, so , the hifonics quality and durability is without a doubt an A+

I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion!

2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/

8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/

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i used a pair of bxi2610D´s for almost 2 years with GREAT success, so , the hifonics quality and durability is without a doubt an A+

BXI and the BRZ series are WAY different. i wouldnt compare the BRZ1200 to the BXI equivalent. although ive never seen clamp tests of a BXI series, i have always heard that BXI/HFI doesnt do rated while the BRZ does. (i have done NO testing on this what so ever, so this is just opinion and possibly a wrong one at that).

I'd hold off on saying the quality of hifonics is A+ until you test the BXI series.

I personally own the BRZ1200, so im in heaven with these tests. I really want to say thanks for taking your time, and testing some of the budget amps :]

09 Civic EX

KDC-X395

(2) SKAR Audio VVX-12

Skar Audio SK-1500.1

4 cu ft @32 (new box and more port soon)

Firing Forward not sealed off

Stock 80 Amp Alt

Big 3 In 1/0 Knu

2 Runs To The Back 1 Pos 1 Neg In 1/0 Knu

DD-1'd 13.8v drop

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Third at bat: Digital Designs M1b

Here you have some pictures comparing the M1b against the M2a :)

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Input Sensitivity 8V - 0.2V

Variable High Pass Filter

Variable Low Pass Filter 20Hz - 200Hz @ 24dB/Oct

Variable Sub-sonic Filter 10Hz - 50Hz @ 24dB/Oct

Variable Bass Boost

Tested Voltage 12v -14v

Tested THD ≥1%

Damping Factor

Signal to Noise >100dB

Channels 1

Cont Power at 1 ohm 1150W x 1 @ 12v

Cont Power at 2 ohm

Cont Power at 4 ohm

Bridged

Dynamic Power 2500 x 1

Efficiency thru Output 80%

Dimensions - mm 350mm L x 175mm W x 51mm H

Dimensions - inches 13-3/8 L x 6-7/8 W x 2-1/8 H....15-1/8 L w/ mounting feet

Shipping Weight 11 lbs, 5 kg

Clamp results :

Voltage drop: 13.5v

49.1 Volts

45 Amps

49.1 x 45 = 2209 watts BOOM!!!!

49.1 / 45 = 1.08 ohms

Termlab score, sealed on the dash @ 42 hz :

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I guess my box isn´t as efficient as i thought, my 1200 watts amplifier it´s actually a 2400 watts amplifier hahaha, i honestly doubted my clamp results so i re-did everything and had the exact same results, so you can imagine what´s about to happen now , testing the M2a :peepwall:

Fourth at bat: The mighty Digital Designs M2a

nput Sensitivity 8V - 0.2V

Variable High Pass Filter n/a

Variable Low Pass Filter 20Hz - 200Hz @ 24dB/Oct

Variable Sub-sonic Filter 10Hz - 50Hz @ 24dB/Oct

Variable Bass Boost

Tested Voltage 12v -14v

Tested THD ≥1%

Damping Factor

Signal to Noise >100dB

Channels 1

Cont Power at 1 ohm 1650W x 1 @ 12v

Cont Power at 2 ohm

Cont Power at 4 ohm

Bridged

Dynamic Power 3500 x 1

Efficiency thru Output 80%

Dimensions - mm 500mm L x 175mm W x 51mm H

Dimensions - inches 19-3/4 L x 6-7/8 W x 2-1/8 H....21-1/8 L w/ mounting feet

Shipping Weight 15 pounds, 6.8 kg

Clamp results:

Voltage drop : 13.2v

52.1 volts

48.1 amps

52.1 x 48.1 = 2506 watts FUCK YEAH!!

52.1 / 48.1 = 1.08

Termlab score, sealed on the dash at 42 hz :

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I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion!

2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/

8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/

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i used a pair of bxi2610D´s for almost 2 years with GREAT success, so , the hifonics quality and durability is without a doubt an A+

BXI and the BRZ series are WAY different. i wouldnt compare the BRZ1200 to the BXI equivalent. although ive never seen clamp tests of a BXI series, i have always heard that BXI/HFI doesnt do rated while the BRZ does. (i have done NO testing on this what so ever, so this is just opinion and possibly a wrong one at that).

I'd hold off on saying the quality of hifonics is A+ until you test the BXI series.

I personally own the BRZ1200, so im in heaven with these tests. I really want to say thanks for taking your time, and testing some of the budget amps :]

I did clamp the bxi2608D i had and then, the 2610D and both amplifiers were the exact same amp, one from 2008 and the other from 2010 with different colors, both did rated power, back then, the 2608D did something like 800 watts @ 3.5 ohms after rise and the 2610D did 1900 watts around 2 ohms after rise, don´t remember the exact numbers right now, but NEVER NEVER EVER compare the BXI series with the piece of crap HFI line, the brutus line it´s a great bang for the buck amp that does rated power if you can keep a nice electrical to back it up, just like the BRZ line does.

Congrats on having a brz1200.1 , that´s one kick ass amplifier if you ask me, 1400 watts for 160$ with a great durability?? that´s a nice choice if you ask me, and thanks for chiming in the topic, my pleasure also to post this things up for you guys :D

I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion!

2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/

8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/

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I forgot to mention, there´s a bxi1610D on this test hehe, so it´s gonna be fun testing that thing out, also, on the next "2000-2500 watts amplifier challenge" there´s a BRZ2400.1 offered for a test :)

I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion!

2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/

8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/

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i know, ive been glued to this thread when you said BXI and BRZ, it would be really great if you could get your hands on a HFI amp so you could completely cover hifonics as a company and be able to give them a real rating.

although with the BRZ doing rated, theres really no reason to grab a HFI.

and im really sorry for comparing BXI to HFI, i did say i could be wrong lol. i wont do it again :P

09 Civic EX

KDC-X395

(2) SKAR Audio VVX-12

Skar Audio SK-1500.1

4 cu ft @32 (new box and more port soon)

Firing Forward not sealed off

Stock 80 Amp Alt

Big 3 In 1/0 Knu

2 Runs To The Back 1 Pos 1 Neg In 1/0 Knu

DD-1'd 13.8v drop

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i know, ive been glued to this thread when you said BXI and BRZ, it would be really great if you could get your hands on a HFI amp so you could completely cover hifonics as a company and be able to give them a real rating.

although with the BRZ doing rated, theres really no reason to grab a HFI.

and im really sorry for comparing BXI to HFI, i did say i could be wrong lol. i wont do it again :P

haha it´s cool mate, just wanted to get that clearify lol, i think i could get my hands on a HFI 1000.1 but that´s about it, but i honestly think it´s a waste of time, i owned an hfi2500D for a few weeks and ditched that thing right away, it wasn´t no way near as loud as my bxi2610D was :woot:

I´m the SPL Gains topic creator!! wanna get louder?? check this: SPL Gains. Panamenian 2009 & 2010 & 2014 Bass Race 149.9 Champion!

2 15" subs and a 2K wired at 1 ohm, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/167788-fecupe2001-2-15s-on-a-2k-video-on-page-3/

8 Massive 15" subs and small power, http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/179296-fecupe2001s-8-15s-4th-order-bandpass-wall/

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