new at sound quality

[noser7]

Ok so latley ive been thunking about creating a good sq set up. And ive been told good midbass speakers are needed. First question is what is midbass? Second is are the RF midbass any good?

[mrd6]

youll find answers to questions like this much faster if you just do a search on your own...

[noser7]

I lot a shit load of time on my hands man. Ive searched quite a bit but I cant figure it out

[mrd6]

all i'm saying is you'll probably find answers to basic questions much faster searching google than posting here and waiting for a response. Not trying to be rude, just sayin' is all. Here ya go:

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=what+is+midbass%3E#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=what+is+midbass%3F&oq=what+is+midbass%3F&aq=f&aqi=g-qs1&aql=&gs_nf=1&gs_l=serp.3..0i22i10.1812.2160.0.2733.2.2.0.0.0.0.305.436.0j1j0j1.2.0.tKN-pAfW_Sc&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=8c09eaea2875d914&biw=1252&bih=679

Not sure what RF midbass speakers you are talking about in the original post but RF does make good equipment

[Watch the bass]

Midbass is from 80 Hz up. Well known as good SQ speakers are the HSK line from Hertz an the lines above, Focal from the Polyglass up.

Best is you tell us what you have now and how big is your budget.

[White Lightning]

youll find answers to questions like this much faster if you just do a search on your own...

all i'm saying is you'll probably find answers to basic questions much faster searching google than posting here and waiting for a response. Not trying to be rude, just sayin' is all. Here ya go:

https://www.google.c...iw=1252&bih=679

Not sure what RF midbass speakers you are talking about in the original post but RF does make good equipment

You know you could say something along the lines of ... Go to the SMD Sound Quality section and ask your questions there ...

Sir ... Exactly what do you want out of your System ... True Sound Quality ??

I can give you alot of information to read up on ... and what type of vehicle do you have so we can give you an idea on what kind of system you should be looking for ...

[RCP Audio]

I know your not up to this stage yet but this is a very helpful tool when you get to it. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/4319-sq-how-to-tune-your-system-a-must-read/

[noser7]

I have an 01' jeep cherokee. As of right now I have a pair of polk audio dxi6500 thats it on pioneer radio. I know I got a long wayto go. Im aboutto get a jib with my uncle getting paid 12 and hour so price shouldnt really matter. Unless u crazy guys tell me to buy 300 and up dollar speakers, thenfhats too much for a pair.

Im no expert I just want something that is gona sound nice. Budget on speakers I sayaround 1000$ uncluding amps and speakers

[White Lightning]

Now we getting somewhere ...

Here is you some reading material to kind of get you an idea of what Sound Quality consist of ...

Listening to audiophiles go on about the sound quality of their audio systems — from their woofers to their tweeters — can sound a lot like oenophiles going on and on about the qualities of wine. To understand such talk, start by understanding the four basics of sound quality:

• Clarity
  

• Dynamic range
  

• Frequency response
  

• Tonal balance
  

Clarity

Clarity is the ability of a system to produce the original signal as intended, without distortion. Distortion can be caused by numerous things — from a head unit that's not level-matched with an amplifier to an amplifier that's clipping, or being overdriven and sending a distorted signal to the speakers. And distortion can come from any component in a system.

A good test is to listen to cymbals, which can have a brassy and off-putting sound when distorted. High-pitched female vocals are also difficult to reproduce and can reveal distortion rather easily.

Achieving clarity and therefore avoiding distortion is all about proper system design and tuning. It's making sure components are of sufficient quality and compatible with one another and that signal levels are well matched between electronics. It also involves using a component as it was intended and not pushing it past its design limits.

Dynamic range

Dynamic range refers to the ability of a system to reproduce loud and soft passages in music with the same level of detail. When you're at a live concert, a singer may wail and then whisper or a drummer may hit a drum head with brute force and then back off a bit. Each extreme is an important part of the performance.

If the performance is recorded and reproduced by an audio system, the loud and soft parts should be delivered with the same detail and accuracy. But often a system tends to suppress soft parts and emphasize loud ones, meaning you lose the subtleties of the performance.

A related concept is linearity, which refers to a system's tendency to lose detail when the volume is turned down. A system has great linearity if it can retain the same detail at a low volume that it does when it's cranked up.

Frequency response

Every sound you hear, from the low rumble of thunder to the high-pitch wail of a siren, is caused by vibrations in the air that occur at certain frequencies. These vibrations are measured in hertz (Hz), which refers to the number of times per second these vibrations occur.

Humans can hear frequencies roughly from 20 to 20,000 Hz. A car audio system's frequency response represents how much of the audible frequency spectrum it can reproduce. The frequency response of a car audio system can be measured by an instrument known as a real-time analyzer (RTA), which consists of a microphone attached to a processor with a display that has a graph that shows a system's response.

Tonal balance

An ideal car audio system uniformly reproduces the entire audible frequency spectrum from 20 to 20,000 Hz. But no system — at least while playing music — is perfect. Music is dynamic; some parts are loud and some are soft, so a system will naturally have dips and peaks in its frequency response.

Although a system can have these peaks and dips in frequency response, it needs to have good tonal balance — a relatively equal amount of sonic energy across the frequency range — to sound good. Subsequently, system designers and tuners often measure frequency response to gauge which frequencies may need to be boosted or cut as opposed to trying to achieve a flat frequency response. This can be done with an equalizer, although it's best that the system is designed in such a way that it has good tonal balance to begin with.

Although the four basic sound quality concepts (clarity, dynamic range, frequency response, and tonal balance) are the most fundamental to understand before purchasing a new car audio system, there are a few other sound quality attributes that are also important.

Timbre

Timbre (pronounced "TAM-bir") refers to a system's ability to recreate the sound of an instrument as it was originally intended to be heard. An acoustic guitar is usually a good test for this because most people have heard one. Does the sound have that warm, slightly resonant quality that the instrument is known for, or does it merely sound like a low-resolution reproduction of that signature sound?

Tonal accuracy

Tonal accuracy describes how faithful a system is in general to the original recording. It can apply to instruments as well as vocals. The more accurate the system is while playing a good recording, the more you feel as if you are there, listening to a live performance as opposed to a recording.

Tonal accuracy can also apply to the ambiance in a recording, which refers to the space in which a recording is made. Most modern recordings are made in a sort of vacuum, with individual instruments recorded separately or, in the case of some rap music, the individual parts are sampled from other recordings. But many older recordings, some modern ones, and almost all live albums capture the environment in which the performance was recorded. In fact, certain recording studios and performance spaces are known and revered for their sound, which give a recording or performance a specific ambiance.

Think of timbre and tonal accuracy as the reproduction of how close you get to the actual performance or how the producer intended for it to sound. Whether it's the sound of Miles Davis's trumpet, Jimmy Page's guitar, a Dr. Dre beat, or the ambiance of Carnegie Hall, how well a system can reproduce it the way it went down in a studio or concert hall determines the difference between a good system and a great one.

Staging and imaging

Staging and imaging are related concepts that go back to the heyday of stereo, and therefore don't always apply to modern music. The basic idea is that when you're listening to a stereo recording, the system should recreate the illusion of the stage on which the performance occurred, and you should be able to pinpoint the sonic image of the individual performers and instruments within the stage.

Think about the example of a basic rock band that includes a singer, guitarist, bass player, and drummer. You should be able to close your eyes and picture the singer at the center of the stage, the guitarist to the right, the bass player on the left, and the drummer center and behind the singer. Keep in mind that this is an ideal that sound quality systems should approach if not achieve. With rap and many pop-music recordings, the vocalist will be centered, but the concept of a band playing on a stage doesn't exactly apply.

Speaker placement has a dramatic effect on staging and imaging, and hardcore enthusiasts often go to great lengths to position their speakers for the best possible results. This includes rebuilding door panels to better position speakers. Some have even built elaborate mechanisms to mount speakers in or raise them above the dash in order to achieve better staging and imaging.

Finally, no discussion of sound quality would be complete without mentioning interior acoustics. A car's interior, its reflective surfaces (such as glass), and its absorptive materials (upholstery) play a dramatic role in a system's response. And every car interior is different; if you install the exact same components in your Toyota Camry that your friend has in his Chrysler 300C, the systems will sound very different.

Now ... try and take a picture (and post them for us) of your dash and doors so we can see what setup might fit into your vehicle and some possible driver aiming driections for stage and image ...

Similar to a stereo shop ... We like to see what we have going on before we give any suggestions ...

Lets start off with the Pioneer head unit ... What model # is it ?? and does it have RCA outputs for front, rear, and sub ??

Does it have a internal EQ ?? Do you want to keep it and use it or buy you something else ???

Edited April 27, 2012 by Cablguy184

[noser7]

Man ur helpful as FUCK!

Ill post up pics as soon as I can

Oh and that is not gona be my stereo forever. Ima uograde later