Help With Scion Build Looking For Suggestions On Subs Either 15's Or 18's

[FlySocietyJones]

O ok den... Do you know if the havoc is better sealed or ported??? cuz i don't have alot of room for an optimum port size unless its jus one

Well f you are wanting SPL then ported would always be the best choice. The Havoc's i heard were 18's in a ported box in a Jeep. They were good for SPL, I would try to do a ported box. The differences are pretty big, most of the time the box means the most in SPL. I am getting a Transmission Line box put in and that will make the SPL cabilities of my setup much greater than just a normal ported box.

I would just look around for some subs that are good for what you are looking for with the small space.

One subwoofer you could look at is the Earthquake Sound DBXi they have a 10" version and it is pretty good, it moves a lot of air.

Yeaa I Know That's The Shitty Part.... My Car Relatively Small So My Back Gotta Go Bye Bye Unless I Wall It Which I Think Are Stupid... Ill Jus Go For A Daily Ground Pounder But Thanks For The Suggestions

[Guest]

SPL and wanting to be loud on music are two very different things.

t-lines dont increase your output. they are intended for if you want a flat response curve. you cant really throw more than like 1000w to a t-line as well.

OP, if you want good suggestions, post up usable dimensions in your car. that way people suggesting, know what should fit.

[Guest]

i dont get how you say you dont have tons of room, when you have a boxy ass car. 21 cubes is a pretty decent amount of air space.

there is a guy near here that has 6 15's in his scion, walled. so dont say you dont have a lot of room lol.

[Omega5002]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, 21 cubes can get you alot.

[FlySocietyJones]

i dont get how you say you dont have tons of room, when you have a boxy ass car. 21 cubes is a pretty decent amount of air space.

there is a guy near here that has 6 15's in his scion, walled. so dont say you dont have a lot of room lol.

I cant see how he did that. You know where i can check that out cuz its shaped real funny i have the new body style so its alit of room but because of all the bullshit buldges its silly when tryin too get a box built for it... This would be my first major build lol so bare with me

[FlySocietyJones]

SPL and wanting to be loud on music are two very different things.

t-lines dont increase your output. they are intended for if you want a flat response curve. you cant really throw more than like 1000w to a t-line as well.

OP, if you want good suggestions, post up usable dimensions in your car. that way people suggesting, know what should fit.

Let me rephrase that then i wanna be more or less LOUD on music i would like too do comps here and there once they in my town but this would be my daily driver and i didnt wanna lose my backseats if im correct the term is "ground pounder". I will post my dimensions today so look out for me. I appreciate the help guys

[Guest]

a ground pounder is when you have a shit ton of cone area and a ton of power.

[Phototini_xB]

Are you willing to loose your backseats? If you are then you run almost anything you want. I have a 2012 xB and I could get 13 cubes just in the trunk area without loosing the backseats.

[CleanSierra]

^^^^follow this mans advice. His Scion is a beast. My girl and I own a 2008 also, and I've measured between the humps in the back and have gotten measurements. 40" between the humps(another 6-8 could probably be had once you've cleared the height, possibly with a fiberglass section), 19 will keep you below headrests, and I'd say to the back hatch you've got maybe, 20-22" on bottom and 16-18" up top depth wise. The depth is an estimate as I don't plan to run one to the hatch. I will do something MUCH more creative in her car.

Don't even THINK about equipment until you've figured out what kind of power you're willing to supply your system via alternator and battery bank. Mike Singer will do a 270A alt for reasonable(I'd rather not give his price publicly).

Figuring out also, what type of airspace EXACTLY you want to play with and how much power from Amps you are willing to provide. Enclosure for the subs will be one of the biggest determining factors whether or not you're loud. Me personally, I'd tune low and make a wind tunnel out of the car, fuck numbers, low is so much cooler.

[FlySocietyJones]

Are you willing to loose your backseats? If you are then you run almost anything you want. I have a 2012 xB and I could get 13 cubes just in the trunk area without loosing the backseats.

I Wasn't Really Trying Too Lose my Backseats...