Natsuru Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 Alright, final question for you guys and i'll leave you alone Is it possible, or even common to hit in the high 140s with a single 15" cheap sundown? I was under the impression that it took several thousand watts to do such a thing The enclosure wasn't even that amazing, just a simple ported box 2005 VW Jetta TDIStock headunit(2) Sundown Audio E-15s @ 35hzPower Acoustik BAMF 1250.2 (will be replaced with Cadence mono)GTMat 50mil Sound Dampener http://natsurutech.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pa-pa-platypus Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 depends on the vehicle and how well the enclosure is set up.... i've seen upper 40's and lower 50's with very cheap subs on not alotta power.. a simple ported boxes can have hundreds of hours of testing behind it to give amazing numbers This isn't teeball. YOU DO NOT GET A TROPHY JUST BECAUSE YOU SHOW UP. Put the work in and then maybe get the respect when it has been earned 151.6 with single 12 at 41 hz 153.2 with 2 12's at 43 hz power: dd m4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natsuru Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 The vehicle with the sundowns was some kind of SUV with a... 3.5 ft^3 box or something tuned to 40hz I believe... Reading through past threads on the forum, i'm rather flabbergasted by some of the stuff and numbers being posted My setup (It's cheap, I don't care if it breaks, don't laugh), is 2 Boss Audio Chaos subwoofers in a cheap ported box, 2.8 ft^3 per sub, ported at 40hz, on a 1250W Power Acoustik BAMF (Around 600W RMS) This is all in a VW Jetta with the seats down, box faced to the trunk (Takes up the whole damn trunk) I know my stuff is really cheap (I'm more into home audio), but is it even feasible that I might be hitting over 130db? I'm probably sounding like a complete car noobie right now, which I am, but I appreciate any input that you guys might be able to offer me 2005 VW Jetta TDIStock headunit(2) Sundown Audio E-15s @ 35hzPower Acoustik BAMF 1250.2 (will be replaced with Cadence mono)GTMat 50mil Sound Dampener http://natsurutech.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 unless the numbers are from a termlab, the numbers mean nothing. the world standard for measuring spl (for stereos, at least) is through the termlab system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam6604 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 im like 90% sure you're over 130db, ive seen prefab kicker cvr's do atleast 128 lol, but anywho you can't tell what you're hitting without using a real meter, such as termlab. and Yes the cheaper sundown woofer could hit 150 im sure, you can make anything very loud with just the box design...granted, im sure that cheaper sundown woofer guy you gave as an example can't play music for crap. He is probably a 1 note wonder to hit such a high level. Stick around this site, you will learn A LOT more about this. with your 2 15's you could be hitting 132db for example, give it to someone experienced he may be able to break 145-150db with them. Knowledge is power. Driving my 2008 Dodge Ram 2500 MEGA cab with the 5.7 hemi. Audio: Two 10" Alpine Type R's ( 1000rms models ) Hifonics BRZ 2400.1D @ .5 ohm Two Kinetic 1400 batteries ( soon to have XS power under hood ) Tsunami 1/0 Awg wire throughout truck. Stock Infinity 7 speaker system ( Junk ) soon to be replaced, probably all Alpine. Exterior: 17"Dick cepek rims with 33" Toyo MT tires Bushwacker fender flares Magnaflow true duel exhaust LED tail lights with Projector headlights Plasti-dip fun coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighossf150 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 unless the numbers are from a termlab, the numbers mean nothing. the world standard for measuring spl (for stereos, at least) is through the termlab system. I have a spl labs meter, it might be a tl but Im willing to bet it is within .1db of one Used to have a loud truck 2009 Corvette Z06, H/C/I, 150 shot, g force tune, 730rwhp/690rwtq 2013 F-150 limited, MPT Tune, leveled on 35"s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natsuru Posted December 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm really surprised you guys haven't laughed at my cheap subwoofers and told me to leave I really have to applaud all of you guys for your knowledge and kindness Like I said, I normally only do home audio, so I don't really know very much about car audio, and I don't claim to know anything I am happy to hear that I might not suck as much as the chinese meter told me I did WIth that out of the way.... cheaper sundowns, 125$ on ebay, is this an actual good upgrade, or would I do better to just fix my box up? Edited because of bad keyboard 2005 VW Jetta TDIStock headunit(2) Sundown Audio E-15s @ 35hzPower Acoustik BAMF 1250.2 (will be replaced with Cadence mono)GTMat 50mil Sound Dampener http://natsurutech.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam6604 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I would run the cheaper sundowns over boss any day! As long as you're just wanting to learn no one here should laugh at you, there is a ton of guys here that could give you any information you would ever need. Grab those 2 sundowns, get maybe an Audioque 750.1 ( I think the cheaper sundowns are like 300-400rms each... ) and that would be a good start! wouldn't need much electrical upgrades either. Driving my 2008 Dodge Ram 2500 MEGA cab with the 5.7 hemi. Audio: Two 10" Alpine Type R's ( 1000rms models ) Hifonics BRZ 2400.1D @ .5 ohm Two Kinetic 1400 batteries ( soon to have XS power under hood ) Tsunami 1/0 Awg wire throughout truck. Stock Infinity 7 speaker system ( Junk ) soon to be replaced, probably all Alpine. Exterior: 17"Dick cepek rims with 33" Toyo MT tires Bushwacker fender flares Magnaflow true duel exhaust LED tail lights with Projector headlights Plasti-dip fun coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighossf150 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 I'm really surprised you guys have laughed at my cheap subwoofers and told me to leave I really have to applaud all of you guys for your knowledge and kindness Like I said, I normally only do home audio, so I don't really know very much about car audio, and I don't claim to know anything I am happy to hear that I might not suck as much as the chinese meter told me I did WIth that out of the way.... cheaper sundowns, 125$ on ebay, is this an actual good upgrade, or would I do better to just fix my box up? its all attitude, no one will give you a hard time for having cheap stuff as long as your cool about it. The sundowns would be a huge upgrade over the boss' but I'd do the box and sundowns at the same time Used to have a loud truck 2009 Corvette Z06, H/C/I, 150 shot, g force tune, 730rwhp/690rwtq 2013 F-150 limited, MPT Tune, leveled on 35"s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam6604 Posted December 27, 2012 Report Share Posted December 27, 2012 if you don't want to sell/buy new equipment, I would suggest sealing your enclosure off from the trunk since they are already firing forward as it is, you lose pressure threw the trunk. Using expanding foam/MDF to seal around the box. Driving my 2008 Dodge Ram 2500 MEGA cab with the 5.7 hemi. Audio: Two 10" Alpine Type R's ( 1000rms models ) Hifonics BRZ 2400.1D @ .5 ohm Two Kinetic 1400 batteries ( soon to have XS power under hood ) Tsunami 1/0 Awg wire throughout truck. Stock Infinity 7 speaker system ( Junk ) soon to be replaced, probably all Alpine. Exterior: 17"Dick cepek rims with 33" Toyo MT tires Bushwacker fender flares Magnaflow true duel exhaust LED tail lights with Projector headlights Plasti-dip fun coming soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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