Ground Up Build

[Deaths Charm 13]

You need to look up HunterJohnson on this forum and view his build in his Scion tC. He did 2 Sundown Z's in a beautiful box in the cargo area and it came out great. He could help you and just looking through ALL of his pics in the build will help you get some ideas. I'll look for the build so I can edit my post with a link to his build.

Found it:

http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/126809-ipad-mini-sq-rebuild-scion-tc-2006-old-alpines-sundown-pioneer-mechman-pictures-last-page/?fromsearch=1

thank you for pointing me in right direction i will ask him some of the questions more directed at our cars.. im still not decided on a subwoofer yet so still needing advice

[Deaths Charm 13]

Do big 3 and your tuns of power wire with 0 gauge. I repeat , TRUE OFC AWG 0 GAUGE.

XS and deka are the best for batteries.

What door speaker amp are you running?

lol you put TRUE OFC AWG 0 GAUGE umm is mine not true 0 gauge? i was told stinger wire was highly recommended thats why i bought the kit. right now my doors speakers are just running off my head unit.

[FosgateLife]

I would never get a sundown SA for a SQ build. But looks like your like me, not going for total SQ, just for a good sounding one. SA's get loud, but they have no tonal quality what so ever..l ive heard many different setups with SA's so i know what im talking about. They arent very musically based, more for loud for cheap.

what would you recommend for sub brand i am open to all suggestions and i will do the research for myself i want to go sundown,fi bl,dd or something other then kicker lol not saying kickers dont get down.... they just are weak they cant handle the heat when volume gets turned up.would 1 fi bl 12 with all upgrades to it be enough bang to suffice my hunger haha. and yes i dont want a total soft sq build ...i want it to unleash hell at high volumes and withstand daily driving playing

Iwould suggest like you said a Fi BL. maybe a PSI platform 2, DD, rockford T2?

Fi Q's get LOW and LOUD, and its a SQ based sub. I think that would be enough IN THE RIGHT BOX

[FosgateLife]

Do big 3 and your tuns of power wire with 0 gauge. I repeat , TRUE OFC AWG 0 GAUGE.

XS and deka are the best for batteries.

What door speaker amp are you running?

lol you put TRUE OFC AWG 0 GAUGE umm is mine not true 0 gauge? i was told stinger wire was highly recommended thats why i bought the kit. right now my doors speakers are just running off my head unit.

If its stinger wire its AWG no worries. Lol dont get CCA though, get OFC

[Deaths Charm 13]

i am trying to upload some pictures to give you guys better understanding of my situation. i know big 3 is probably not done properly..it is my first time running it and i didnt have any heavy gauge wire. also the wires running to my engine are turning black from the heat im assuming. let me post pictures ill be back in just second.

[Deaths Charm 13]

i know its a BOSS amp it sounds good on my door speakers and 6x9s lol

[Deaths Charm 13]

im not thin skinned i know my wiring is rigged and that is all gonna change right now. dont get me wrong my system sounds decent as is but i want to have a professional looking sound system. ill check back on this post all night to respond but i will be busy most time helping my wife since she had surgery yesterday

[Deaths Charm 13]

I would never get a sundown SA for a SQ build. But looks like your like me, not going for total SQ, just for a good sounding one. SA's get loud, but they have no tonal quality what so ever..l ive heard many different setups with SA's so i know what im talking about. They arent very musically based, more for loud for cheap.

what would you recommend for sub brand i am open to all suggestions and i will do the research for myself i want to go sundown,fi bl,dd or something other then kicker lol not saying kickers dont get down.... they just are weak they cant handle the heat when volume gets turned up.would 1 fi bl 12 with all upgrades to it be enough bang to suffice my hunger haha. and yes i dont want a total soft sq build ...i want it to unleash hell at high volumes and withstand daily driving playing

Iwould suggest like you said a Fi BL. maybe a PSI platform 2, DD, rockford T2?

Fi Q's get LOW and LOUD, and its a SQ based sub. I think that would be enough IN THE RIGHT BOX

i can get a fully loaded fi bl 12 local for about $340 or should i keep shopping? guy said he has never installed or put power on it and from the pictures the foam surround that over laps in the screw holes are not even punctured. speaker looks incredible but i dont know how to build the enclosure for it and the local audio shop is insane on pricing so i would need dimensions and have my buddy build it.

[FosgateLife]

Trust me, your wiring cant get any worse than Ghost riders... And its not even that bad! Lol. Yes yes yes def upgrade your big 3 to 0 gauge! Look at Sky High Car Audio for cheap GREAT wire btw!

[Swordlordboy1234]

If you go with FI stuff like that BL, that's cool... But when its time to upgrade to maybe a 2nd BL get both the recones at the same time. Get a deka or Xs battery. Stinger wire is good. Sky high car audio has lots of good stuff for your wire needs. Check out some Rockford t2 components for decent sound on a lower budget. Other subs I'd check out for the price would be the FI Q, psi platform 2, maybe even a level 4 from DC. is the Hifonics your only amp choice? They are good and put out rated but some people have told about Hifonics being power hungry. Are you running a 4 channel?