Cheapo Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Hey SMD Comunity, I've got a question for you about a replacement amp Im looking for. I've currently got a Alpine MRP-F300 amp that I am convinsed as a dying channel 1 output. Its 4 years old and has served me well, so Im fine with parting ways with it. I guess before I go any farther, I should probably give some background on my car and car audio knowledge. My car is a 2009 Ford Fusion V6 SEL, here she is and heres a pic of the trunk (and I know having the trunk some what sealed off and the port facing out was probably not the best idea, I didnt know what I was doing 4 years ago. Still dont lol) Here's what she has right now 2 Alpine M500s monos 2 Alpine Type R's 1 Alpine F300 4 5x7 Infinity Kappas And thats really it for audio. And regarding my car audio knowledge, well I guess I know a little? I must admit I did not do any of this install, minus some sound deadening on the trunk and floor. But, like I said my F300 has finally decided to start dying on me (about time, its a class a/b and always ran hot) and I need a new amp! And here's what I've thought about for replacements. http://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/mrx-f35orhttp://www.alpine-usa.com/product/view/mrx-f65Now I realize I'm pretty stupid when it comes to a lot of things, including car audio, but the only real differences I've seen between the 2 are a clear RMS power output and max power gauge input (as well as some other stuff like THD at RMS power output, blah blah blah). The thing that confuses the heck out of me, is the speakers. Amazon lists them as a 2ohm, 100 rms power speaker. Then they talk about some "true 4ohm technology". So I guess here's the questionsIs it possible to screw up wiring them wrong? Such as is it possible to wire a 2ohm speaker at 4ohms, thus damaging it? Again, I did not do the original install on this system, and would like to do this myself for the experience. Gotta learn somewhere. Which amp would you recommend? Disregard the prices, as I have found them both for around ~190, thus making them equal in price. If my math adds up, the F65 doing 160 at 2ohms would be a bit much, but I can turn down the gain to compensate for that, correct? Thanks for helping a noob guys. C
Mike Gibbens Matthew Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 If you have someone that can help you set the gains, or feel comfortable doing it yourself and money is no object, I would get the F65. You are correct that you can adjust the gains to not overpower your speakers. Having extra headroom is great for a couple reasons. Room to upgrade if you want. And also you wont have to run the amp really hard and it will last longer. I believe that you can get a better amp for the price, but then you wouldnt match. I hate when my stuff doesnt match. If I was in your shoes I would stick with the Alpine. And the Alpines are good amps 07 KIA Spectra 320a Singer Alt Odyssey Extreme batteries 2 12" Phantom sounds (4.6 cu. net @ 32) - soon to be 2 Atomic ELE 2 Rockford Fosgate T2500bd-CP Zapco Z150.2 Front comps soon to be Hertz HSK Pioneer 80prs Second skin deadener throughout
jarrius Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Look in to other companies to me that's a lot of money but I guess your paying for the name. If you don't mind having mismatched gear look at soundqubed ct sounds RF dc audio execution audio. There are a lot of companies that make better products for not much more or even cheaper some times. And by no means Amin saying alpine is bad just cost to much for who makes it like JL 2012 Chevy sonic1xSQ HDC3 12 D2RF R1200d 140 square foot of Q-Mat(soon to be installed) 140.2Db sealed on the dash with TL 142 DB sealed on the dash with another meter (was dead on with the TL at a show i was at) 141 on music. strangeduck,on 02 Jan 2014 - 01:39 AM, said: when my car spins out i just put the car in neutral, turn in the direction i want to go and pucker my asshole
Cheapo Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Posted March 25, 2014 Yea I am not totally against mis matching stuff, but it would be nice. That and it would fit almost perfectly in the false floor. Also I cant say money doesnt matter, but I am fine paying 230 to replace a 4 year old amp that would probably last me quite a bit longer. I guess I've kind of decided on the F65, being that my other class D Alpines have given me no issues and stay ice cold, I feel confident this thing will perform. That being said, I just noticed something goofy on the F65. What do I do with the "pre outs" from the old amp? Do I even need them? (I am running a factory HU if that matters.) Thanks yet again.
n8ball2013 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 One of those pairs is probably for a passthrough THERE IS NO BUILD LOG! 1998 Chevy Silverado ext cab Alpine CDA-9887 4 Team Fi 15s 2 Ampere Audio TFE 8.0 2 Ampere Audio 150.4 3 Digital Designs CS6.5 component sets Dual Mechman 370XP Elite alternators inbound! 8 XS Power d3400 6 XS power d680 Second Skin Stinger Tsunami Wiring Sky High A Real Voltmeter not a piece of shit stinger.
Cheapo Posted March 25, 2014 Author Report Posted March 25, 2014 Looks like its labeled as Channel 1+3 and 2+4 pre outs. Interesting why a quite older model has this feature, while a higher end amp does not. Unless its no longer necessary .
Cheapo Posted March 28, 2014 Author Report Posted March 28, 2014 So I've got a F65 in the mail, anyone know if I can just ignore the pre outs and leave them unplugged? Or does someone have a diagram I can reference? Thanks.
Soccerballzs Posted March 28, 2014 Report Posted March 28, 2014 Are you using preouts now on old amp? If not you are good. http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/garage/vehicle/2438-jeep-commander/I Pioneer P99RSAmpere 38002-Ampere 125/44-6.5 inch Hertz HSK XL Mids4-8 inch JL Audio ZR Midwoofer 2-5.25 Satori Mids2-Morel Tweeters, 2 Hertz Milles 3 inch on A pillars2-Hertz Silk tweeters DC Audio Level 5/12 Skyhigh Wire Mechman 320 XS Power D3100MO Funniest Thread of the Year 2013: http://www.stevemead...dy-being-a-pos/
TRON Posted March 28, 2014 Report Posted March 28, 2014 Nice trunk. As much as I like Alpine, their 4 channel amplifiers are weird. Like your F300, it needs both the RCA inputs (total of 4) to be used to get full power bridged. Whereas the new F65 doesn't. Avalanche Alpine Type S comps Alpine Type S 10'' Alpine MPR-F300 Alpine MRX-M50 Mechamn 270 XS Power d3400s
Cheapo Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Posted March 29, 2014 Are you using preouts now on old amp? If not you are good. Yes they are currently hooked up. Nice trunk. As much as I like Alpine, their 4 channel amplifiers are weird. Like your F300, it needs both the RCA inputs (total of 4) to be used to get full power bridged. Whereas the new F65 doesn't. Thanks!
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