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[thefourth]

Hopefully this gives you a better image of what I'm saying

[Guest]

Dude I thank you for the help. I know that is what it is suppose to look like. I seriously tried to stretch it out like that, but because the piece I'm stretching it around is so big I could not get to unwrinkled for the life of me. I even tried doing it one half at time to see if that would make a difference. It also does not help that my apillars are not all that big or even flat for that matter. Ugh...

[aculous]

Dude I thank you for the help. I know that is what it is suppose to look like. I seriously tried to stretch it out like that, but because the piece I'm stretching it around is so big I could not get to unwrinkled for the life of me. I even tried doing it one half at time to see if that would make a difference. It also does not help that my apillars are not all that big or even flat for that matter. Ugh...

Maybe try a different fabric. I have a feeling I am going to run into these same issues with my doors. Also it looks like you used two pieces, I wouldn't do that. (also I am a super noob when it comes to fab so grain of salt as always) Also check out the CAF videos for glassing his little tips on the TYPE of materials he uses I think is super helpful.

Looks great by the way, makin me feel like a slacker!

[Guest]

Dude I thank you for the help. I know that is what it is suppose to look like. I seriously tried to stretch it out like that, but because the piece I'm stretching it around is so big I could not get to unwrinkled for the life of me. I even tried doing it one half at time to see if that would make a difference. It also does not help that my apillars are not all that big or even flat for that matter. Ugh...

Maybe try a different fabric. I have a feeling I am going to run into these same issues with my doors.

Looks great by the way, makin me feel like a slacker!

Thanks bro! I might just try to stretch out what I can and then just use body filler on it for like a whole day! lol Kudos on that zero gauge you got btw!

[aculous]

Dude I thank you for the help. I know that is what it is suppose to look like. I seriously tried to stretch it out like that, but because the piece I'm stretching it around is so big I could not get to unwrinkled for the life of me. I even tried doing it one half at time to see if that would make a difference. It also does not help that my apillars are not all that big or even flat for that matter. Ugh...

Maybe try a different fabric. I have a feeling I am going to run into these same issues with my doors.

Looks great by the way, makin me feel like a slacker!

Thanks bro! I might just try to stretch out what I can and then just use body filler on it for like a whole day! lol Kudos on that zero gauge you got btw!

miguels schooled me its 1 gauge but whatever it will be a start. I still need to sort out electrical and sound deadening to come in. I'll catch up to you though!

[scooter99]

Can we see pics of the wrinkles etc?

Added it to post, feel free to critique but I would appreciate it to be helpful rather than condemning

Wow you thought that was condemning!? It was just a question. I was just trying to see what you did. Maybe, in your posts you could be a little more specific about where you're posting your pictures. I don't go back and look at the first post again, because most of us post pictures while in progress in our threads, hence the "go to last post" button you select when you get the thread ipopped up in your notifications.

If you don't want anyone's help then say so. But I think you're in the wrong hobby for that, and especially the wrong forum.

But carry on, I wish you luck.

I'll edit this, since I went back and looked, but that picture wasn't there when I posted that question yesterday. it said you edited it, which I assumed that picture was there, and then it was taken off but the first picture was the only one that was there. Not the one of the pillars.

But I agree, not that you want help, but you would be much better off doing it again. You can stretch a tshirt over it, and clamp it in the back, not on the sides but behind the pillar, and then put a layer of resin over it when it's straight. Once it's dry, take the claps off and cut the excess material off. DON'T cut the centers out until you're 2nd or 3rd layer. When you do that you loose the strength and the whole thing tends to relax because it's not strong enough yet on the first pass. Alot of guys will wait until it's all done to cut the speaker holes out.

If you body fill it that way, the way you have it, your pillars are going to weigh 50 lbs, with out the speakers in it.

Just suggestions. If you want any.

[Guest]

Can we see pics of the wrinkles etc?

Added it to post, feel free to critique but I would appreciate it to be helpful rather than condemning

Wow you thought that was condemning!? It was just a question. I was just trying to see what you did. Maybe, in your posts you could be a little more specific about where you're posting your pictures. I don't go back and look at the first post again, because most of us post pictures while in progress in our threads, hence the "go to last post" button you select when you get the thread ipopped up in your notifications.

If you don't want anyone's help then say so. But I think you're in the wrong hobby for that, and especially the wrong forum.

But carry on, I wish you luck.

I'll edit this, since I went back and looked, but that picture wasn't there when I posted that question yesterday. it said you edited it, which I assumed that picture was there, and then it was taken off but the first picture was the only one that was there. Not the one of the pillars.

But I agree, not that you want help, but you would be much better off doing it again. You can stretch a tshirt over it, and clamp it in the back, not on the sides but behind the pillar, and then put a layer of resin over it when it's straight. Once it's dry, take the claps off and cut the excess material off. DON'T cut the centers out until you're 2nd or 3rd layer. When you do that you loose the strength and the whole thing tends to relax because it's not strong enough yet on the first pass. Alot of guys will wait until it's all done to cut the speaker holes out.

If you body fill it that way, the way you have it, your pillars are going to weigh 50 lbs, with out the speakers in it.

Just suggestions. If you want any.

Thanks man! And I did not mean to suggest you were being condemning, I thought 'thefourth' was mistakenly. I def want you all's advice! I need it considering I am learning as I go. I might redo them if I can find the will to do so

And yes, I did originally have the picture up, but then I took it down cuz I thought it looked really bad..

[aculous]

Can we see pics of the wrinkles etc?

Added it to post, feel free to critique but I would appreciate it to be helpful rather than condemning

Wow you thought that was condemning!? It was just a question. I was just trying to see what you did. Maybe, in your posts you could be a little more specific about where you're posting your pictures. I don't go back and look at the first post again, because most of us post pictures while in progress in our threads, hence the "go to last post" button you select when you get the thread ipopped up in your notifications.

If you don't want anyone's help then say so. But I think you're in the wrong hobby for that, and especially the wrong forum.

But carry on, I wish you luck.

I'll edit this, since I went back and looked, but that picture wasn't there when I posted that question yesterday. it said you edited it, which I assumed that picture was there, and then it was taken off but the first picture was the only one that was there. Not the one of the pillars.

But I agree, not that you want help, but you would be much better off doing it again. You can stretch a tshirt over it, and clamp it in the back, not on the sides but behind the pillar, and then put a layer of resin over it when it's straight. Once it's dry, take the claps off and cut the excess material off. DON'T cut the centers out until you're 2nd or 3rd layer. When you do that you loose the strength and the whole thing tends to relax because it's not strong enough yet on the first pass. Alot of guys will wait until it's all done to cut the speaker holes out.

If you body fill it that way, the way you have it, your pillars are going to weigh 50 lbs, with out the speakers in it.

Just suggestions. If you want any.

Thanks man! And I did not mean to suggest you were being condemning, I thought 'thefourth' was mistakenly. I def want you all's advice! I need it considering I am learning as I go. I might redo them if I can find the will to do so

And yes, I did originally have the picture up, but then I took it down cuz I thought it looked really bad..

ah don't be scared. I post up all my fuck ups. Better to be up front and honest about your shit and learn from it. Plus its not like you're a professional and even they make mistakes.

[scooter99]

That's what we're here for. NO matter how bad it looks, you're learning, we get that, so by posting them up we can check them out and say hm, not bad first attempt but this may help you get better results in the future............insert advise here.

I've found most material works, it's jsut a matter of how you've stretched it, attached it, and how much you've wet it etc. Just takes trial and error. First time I ever thought about pillars, I litterally thought I was supposed to lay mat over it and try and stretch that. I was quickly corrected before I wasted it. I used grill cloth to get a nice base, and then glassed over that.

There are a few guys here that will use pretty strong material, and then just resin over it over and over and over again. They do it so smoothly that minimal filler is needed after sanding.

Keep at it. Looking forward to seeing more.

[Guest]

I am back guys! I spent so much time on this forum that I decided to give it up for Lent! Not easy! haha Anyways, my build has progressed some! The apillars were "done" but I hated the way they turned out. Primer/paint were drying with cracks and panels were not as smooth as I would like...in the progress of trying to make them not look like sh**....kinda a pita...I tried wrapping in 4-way stretch vinyl...could not get it to work....makes me want to redo them all together and only put tweeters in the them...I might need to get new panels though...anyways....here are the pics of my apillar journey! Please give me advice if you have any!

They look better in the picture than they do in person....just saying...