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kam311

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I am helping a buddy with a box design and, like usual, trying to cram as much into as little of an enclosure as I can. The space is very limited because it is behind the seat of a 05 silverado crew cab. My main question is: Is a 4" round port (i can make it aero if I need to) enough port area to avoid a ton of port noise in my box. As is, the box is 1.25 cubes and there will be 2 sundown e8's in the box. I've been reading up and there is quite a bit of contradicting information, so I'm asking a place that I trust. 

This is really my first time with round ports. 

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so far...

HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B

Amp- crescendo BC2000D

Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead

Electric- Big 3 ^same wire

Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's

Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs

Posted

A single 4" port probably isn't enough, though it depends on how much power your friend is going to be running.  

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Triticum Agricolam said:

A single 4" port probably isn't enough, though it depends on how much power your friend is going to be running.  

We are running 900 watts. I guess I might have to get a little more creative with the box to squeeze out a little more air space. The problem I am having is that with more port area the mouth of the port is ending up really close to the subs and I am afraid we will have an unloading issue with a straight port that close to the subs. 

so far...

HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B

Amp- crescendo BC2000D

Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead

Electric- Big 3 ^same wire

Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's

Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs

Posted
1 hour ago, kam311 said:

We are running 900 watts. I guess I might have to get a little more creative with the box to squeeze out a little more air space. The problem I am having is that with more port area the mouth of the port is ending up really close to the subs and I am afraid we will have an unloading issue with a straight port that close to the subs. 

Yeah on 900 watts a single 4" port is significantly undersized.  You really should have two 4" ports or a single larger slot port.  Due to your limited space, fitting the port is going to be a challenge.  

"Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it."
"Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."

Builds:

U7qkMTL.jpg  LgPgE9w.jpg  Od2G3u1.jpg  xMyLoO1.jpg  9pAlXUK.jpg

Posted
18 minutes ago, Triticum Agricolam said:

Yeah on 900 watts a single 4" port is significantly undersized.  You really should have two 4" ports or a single larger slot port.  Due to your limited space, fitting the port is going to be a challenge.  

Okay so i figured in a little extra space and it helps a bit. I did the calculations separately and just subtracted the extra airspace gained from the woofer displacement. Here is a different design, am I going to run into unloading issues like this, or should I use the odd shape and just have the port running along the top instead? I appreciate the help, you are very right. It is always hard to tune low with these tight squeeze odd shaped boxes. 

http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o783/straight308/Screenshot 120_zpsw663n2r5.png

http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o783/straight308/Screenshot 121_zpsvgmeizkb.png 

so far...

HU- pioneer DEH-P59001B

Amp- crescendo BC2000D

Wire- 1/0 awg welding lead

Electric- Big 3 ^same wire

Subs- 2 Obsidian Audio 12 d4's

Box 4ft^3 ported at 33hz. designed by Ram-Designs

Posted
4 hours ago, kam311 said:

Okay so i figured in a little extra space and it helps a bit. I did the calculations separately and just subtracted the extra airspace gained from the woofer displacement. Here is a different design, am I going to run into unloading issues like this, or should I use the odd shape and just have the port running along the top instead? I appreciate the help, you are very right. It is always hard to tune low with these tight squeeze odd shaped boxes. 

http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o783/straight308/Screenshot 120_zpsw663n2r5.png

http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o783/straight308/Screenshot 121_zpsvgmeizkb.png 

Even though it will be an odd shape, I'd probably run the port along the top.  

"Nothing prevents people from knowing the truth more than the belief they already know it."
"Making bass is easy, making music is the hard part."

Builds:

U7qkMTL.jpg  LgPgE9w.jpg  Od2G3u1.jpg  xMyLoO1.jpg  9pAlXUK.jpg

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