"Stealth" build - 2x10"s or 2x 12"s with limited airspace?

[BboyTaktix]

Just now, Dafaseles said:

Sweet! Still going to do 2 10's?

Yessir put the order in for two of them - about $120CAD more total. Those should bump real good at 800wRMS total - their sensitivity is a bit lower (I believe around 76 dB @ 1w/1m) but my clarion has plenty of power to give to them. Guy who helped me out over the phone said he didn’t much like the ones I originally ordered, and that these are far better built and definitely worth the premium especially with the discount they were able to give me. Well my budget ended up a little higher ($800cad total for the two subs, 1/0gauge wiring kit, sound dampening sheets and foam wrap) but I’d rather do it once and do it right and enjoy living with it for a few years. 
 

side note - the speakers you linked seem to be discontinued and hard to get here in Canada so I may go for the « newer » equivalent version (or whatever I can find around 60w RMS in that range):

 

https://ca.jbl.com/Club6522-.html

[Dafaseles]

Well, a higher wattage handling speaker would compliment that pioneer amp well. Here's a couple more ideas, if you can get them. I don't know if you have Amazon or Crutchfield where you are in Canada without some crazy shipping fee. I don't know how that works

 

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_20646CC674/Kicker-46CSC674.html?tp=78072

 

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB652/Polk-Audio-DB-652.html?tp=78072

 

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_1131696PS/Kenwood-KFC-1696PS.html?tp=78072

 

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-DB652-Ultramarine-Speakers/dp/B01EXOTD56/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?dchild=1&keywords=6.5+coaxial+speakers&qid=1629262187&refinements=p_36%3A1253505011&rnid=386442011&s=electronics&sprefix=6.5+co&sr=1-17

 

As far as the subs go, they are a definite upgrade! They should sound really good! 

Usually, lower sensitivity speakers are more geared toward sound quality, so I think you made the right choice upgrading

[BboyTaktix]

5 hours ago, Dafaseles said:

Well, a higher wattage handling speaker would compliment that pioneer amp well. Here's a couple more ideas, if you can get them. I don't know if you have Amazon or Crutchfield where you are in Canada without some crazy shipping fee. I don't know how that works

 

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_20646CC674/Kicker-46CSC674.html?tp=78072

 

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB652/Polk-Audio-DB-652.html?tp=78072

 

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_1131696PS/Kenwood-KFC-1696PS.html?tp=78072

 

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-DB652-Ultramarine-Speakers/dp/B01EXOTD56/ref=mp_s_a_1_17?dchild=1&keywords=6.5+coaxial+speakers&qid=1629262187&refinements=p_36%3A1253505011&rnid=386442011&s=electronics&sprefix=6.5+co&sr=1-17

 

As far as the subs go, they are a definite upgrade! They should sound really good! 

Usually, lower sensitivity speakers are more geared toward sound quality, so I think you made the right choice upgrading

Nice - look forward to starting my build.

 

i have both crutchfield and Amazon available in Canada (websites ending in .ca) but the selection isn’t quite the same as in USA. We finally got prime here tho and use it all the time for quick shipping! 
 

ill take a look at the speakers you sent and compare specs vs price/availability and make a good choice. Then, it’s on to the build phase 😎

 

 

[Dafaseles]

1 hour ago, BboyTaktix said:

Nice - look forward to starting my build.

 

i have both crutchfield and Amazon available in Canada (websites ending in .ca) but the selection isn’t quite the same as in USA. We finally got prime here tho and use it all the time for quick shipping! 
 

ill take a look at the speakers you sent and compare specs vs price/availability and make a good choice. Then, it’s on to the build phase 😎

 

 

Unless you can get something better from a local shop or something. I was just throwing out ideas. 

Can't wait to see you get down on it! 

[BboyTaktix]

OK, here are the options I have available (crutchfirld Canada):

 

1) Kenwood KFC-1696PS you mentioned (100W RMS) $99:

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_1131696PS/Kenwood-KFC-1696PS.html?tp=78076

 

2) Hertz DCX 165.3 (60w RMS) coaxial $99;

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_301DCX1653/Hertz-DCX-165-3.html?tp=78076

 

3) Hertz K165 (75w RMS) components $99:

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_301K165/Hertz-K-165.html?tp=78076

 

After that it jumps up to the $140 range for lower-powered Rockford, and a pretty nice set of Hertz components:

 

4) Hertz DSK 165.3 (80w RMS) component speakers $144;

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_301DSK1653/Hertz-DSK-165-3.html?tp=78076

 

Not sure if any advantage going with component speakers since OEM rear door speakers are in fact component speakers maybe a little more enjoyable if I have rear passengers - but I could easily disconnect the rear door tweeters when installing the new system. 

 

[Dafaseles]

1 hour ago, BboyTaktix said:

OK, here are the options I have available (crutchfirld Canada):

 

1) Kenwood KFC-1696PS you mentioned (100W RMS) $99:

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_1131696PS/Kenwood-KFC-1696PS.html?tp=78076

 

2) Hertz DCX 165.3 (60w RMS) coaxial $99;

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_301DCX1653/Hertz-DCX-165-3.html?tp=78076

 

3) Hertz K165 (75w RMS) components $99:

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_301K165/Hertz-K-165.html?tp=78076

 

After that it jumps up to the $140 range for lower-powered Rockford, and a pretty nice set of Hertz components:

 

4) Hertz DSK 165.3 (80w RMS) component speakers $144;

https://www.crutchfield.ca/p_301DSK1653/Hertz-DSK-165-3.html?tp=78076

 

Not sure if any advantage going with component speakers since OEM rear door speakers are in fact component speakers maybe a little more enjoyable if I have rear passengers - but I could easily disconnect the rear door tweeters when installing the new system. 

 

Me personally, I'd just go with the kenwood coaxial speakers. Plenty of RMS and I've never had kenwood speakers that sounded bad. 

Component speakers in the back are kind of pointless. Yeah, if might sound a little better for the rear passengers, for you, the driver, it's just rear fill. You won't really be able to tell a difference for a considerable jump in price. 

That all being said, any of those options will work, of you'd prefer to go a different route 

[BboyTaktix]

1 minute ago, Dafaseles said:

Me personally, I'd just go with the kenwood coaxial speakers. Plenty of RMS and I've never had kenwood speakers that sounded bad. 

Component speakers in the back are kind of pointless. Yeah, if might sound a little better for the rear passengers, for you, the driver, it's just rear fill. You won't really be able to tell a difference for a considerable jump in price. 

That all being said, any of those options will work, of you'd prefer to go a different route 

 

Sounds good - I will save the $50 and go with the Kenwoods - I would like to eventually replace my Audiocontrol LC2i with an Audiocontrol LCQ-1 to get some DSP functionality and further dial the system in - however, I would like to get everything working first. After that, swapping out the LC2i with LCQ-1 will be literally a 10min job and give me much more adjustability. 

[Dafaseles]

30 minutes ago, BboyTaktix said:

 

Sounds good - I will save the $50 and go with the Kenwoods - I would like to eventually replace my Audiocontrol LC2i with an Audiocontrol LCQ-1 to get some DSP functionality and further dial the system in - however, I would like to get everything working first. After that, swapping out the LC2i with LCQ-1 will be literally a 10min job and give me much more adjustability. 

Sounds like a good idea to me. Goodly you can get that thing dialed in and sounding exactly how you want it