Beanz Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Here you go. WinISD has given me this information, this should work for you. If you can, try and EQ out this little rise at around 38 hz and bring 43hz up a wee bit for flat frequency response. I have made this public so other users may comment and ammend data and designs at whim. Go nuts. Data: Driver : Soundstream T4 Vas : 58.7 Qts : 0.40 Fs : 34.03 SPL : 91.00 -- Project by : MICK Project for : Beanz -- Number of drivers : 1 Box type : Vented Box size : 120.0 l Tuning frequency : 32.00 Hz Vent : 2 vent(s) 0.303 m length for each 0.100 m round Relative Freq Gain Phase SPL [Hz] [dB] [deg] [dB] 20.00 -17.00 274.62 74.00 21.00 -15.11 269.85 75.89 22.00 -13.28 264.80 77.72 23.00 -11.49 259.38 79.51 24.00 -9.74 253.51 81.26 25.00 -8.04 247.07 82.96 26.00 -6.39 239.95 84.61 27.00 -4.81 232.01 86.19 28.00 -3.34 223.19 87.66 29.00 -2.02 213.47 88.98 30.00 -0.90 203.00 90.10 31.00 -0.02 192.08 90.98 32.00 0.61 181.15 91.61 33.00 0.99 170.66 91.99 34.00 1.17 160.97 92.17 35.00 1.21 152.26 92.21 36.00 1.14 144.56 92.14 37.00 1.02 137.79 92.02 38.00 0.88 131.86 91.88 39.00 0.72 126.63 91.72 40.00 0.56 122.00 91.56 41.00 0.41 117.87 91.41 42.00 0.26 114.16 91.26 43.00 0.14 110.79 91.14 44.00 0.02 107.72 91.02 45.00 -0.08 104.90 90.92 46.00 -0.18 102.30 90.82 47.00 -0.26 99.88 90.74 48.00 -0.33 97.63 90.67 49.00 -0.39 95.52 90.61 50.00 -0.45 93.53 90.55 51.00 -0.50 91.65 90.50 52.00 -0.54 89.88 90.46 53.00 -0.58 88.19 90.42 54.00 -0.61 86.59 90.39 55.00 -0.64 85.06 90.36 56.00 -0.66 83.59 90.34 57.00 -0.68 82.19 90.32 58.00 -0.69 80.84 90.31 59.00 -0.71 79.55 90.29 60.00 -0.72 78.30 90.28 61.00 -0.73 77.10 90.27 62.00 -0.73 75.94 90.27 63.00 -0.74 74.82 90.26 64.00 -0.74 73.74 90.26 65.00 -0.74 72.70 90.26 66.00 -0.75 71.68 90.25 67.00 -0.74 70.70 90.26 68.00 -0.74 69.74 90.26 69.00 -0.74 68.82 90.26 70.00 -0.74 67.92 90.26 71.00 -0.73 67.04 90.27 72.00 -0.73 66.19 90.27 73.00 -0.73 65.36 90.27 74.00 -0.72 64.56 90.28 75.00 -0.71 63.77 90.29 76.00 -0.71 63.00 90.29 77.00 -0.70 62.26 90.30 78.00 -0.70 61.53 90.30 79.00 -0.69 60.81 90.31 80.00 -0.68 60.12 90.32 81.00 -0.67 59.44 90.33 82.00 -0.67 58.78 90.33 83.00 -0.66 58.13 90.34 84.00 -0.65 57.49 90.35 85.00 -0.65 56.87 90.35 86.00 -0.64 56.27 90.36 87.00 -0.63 55.67 90.37 88.00 -0.62 55.09 90.38 89.00 -0.61 54.52 90.39 90.00 -0.61 53.97 90.39 91.00 -0.60 53.42 90.40 92.00 -0.59 52.89 90.41 93.00 -0.58 52.36 90.42 94.00 -0.58 51.85 90.42 95.00 -0.57 51.34 90.43 96.00 -0.56 50.85 90.44 97.00 -0.56 50.36 90.44 98.00 -0.55 49.89 90.45 99.00 -0.54 49.42 90.46 100.00 -0.53 48.96 90.47 Response plot: Sorry for the long post. Overall, you need two 100mm (4") ports, 12" long each. Keep them at least 6 inches away from the walls of the enclosure and you shall be right. Critque away. Cheers, Mick Now say i wanted to add another woofer would that make a difference to it? Quote That's why they don't deliver. Yer ass better go sit along the side of the road and wait. You can't expect them to travel up some dirt road in a hick / back woods town. Thats how horror movies start I explain things very simply and use analogies in terms of Pickles, and grape drink, pool noodles and jackhammers...if you can't put 2 and 2 together there man, There simply is not much more I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wL<3bass Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Here you go. WinISD has given me this information, this should work for you. If you can, try and EQ out this little rise at around 38 hz and bring 43hz up a wee bit for flat frequency response. I have made this public so other users may comment and ammend data and designs at whim. Go nuts. Data: Driver : Soundstream T4 Vas : 58.7 Qts : 0.40 Fs : 34.03 SPL : 91.00 -- Project by : MICK Project for : Beanz -- Number of drivers : 1 Box type : Vented Box size : 120.0 l Tuning frequency : 32.00 Hz Vent : 2 vent(s) 0.303 m length for each 0.100 m round Sorry for the long post. Overall, you need two 100mm (4") ports, 12" long each. Keep them at least 6 inches away from the walls of the enclosure and you shall be right. Critque away. Cheers, Mick So you need a 4.23775 ft³ box wit the ports listed by Mick there are plenty of box calculators to calcualte cu.ft from measurements HERE'S ONE! Quote Vehicle: 1997 S10 Blazer 4dr 4X4 Exterior: Rear End Bagged, Black Grill, Lifted 2" Amplifiers: Rockford Fosgate T8004 & T10001bd Batteries: 2 Stinger SPV35, Kinetik HC2400 Electrical: Big 3, DC Power 290amp Alternator w/ MLA at 15.5v Enclosure: 4.2 ft³ @ 33Hz 84sq.in. of port (20sq.in. per cube) Headunit: Eclipse CD3200 w/ 80G iPod Mids/Highs: Rockford T152s (a-pillars), Rockford T162s (doors) Subwoofers: 1 15" Fi BL Fully Loaded Wire: All 1/0g Kicker Hyperflex My YouTube Videos My Fiberglass A-Pillar Build My "Seamless" Looking Box Build My DD1508 T-Line Bandpass Build "Seamless" w/ Acrylic Windows (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Stealth 8" Fiberglass Build (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Build For A Friend's '08 Cobalt 15" BL Sealed Off From The Trunk My feedback/references... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wL<3bass Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Now say i wanted to add another woofer would that make a difference to it? YES! You would need to double everything listed for it to work properly. Quote Vehicle: 1997 S10 Blazer 4dr 4X4 Exterior: Rear End Bagged, Black Grill, Lifted 2" Amplifiers: Rockford Fosgate T8004 & T10001bd Batteries: 2 Stinger SPV35, Kinetik HC2400 Electrical: Big 3, DC Power 290amp Alternator w/ MLA at 15.5v Enclosure: 4.2 ft³ @ 33Hz 84sq.in. of port (20sq.in. per cube) Headunit: Eclipse CD3200 w/ 80G iPod Mids/Highs: Rockford T152s (a-pillars), Rockford T162s (doors) Subwoofers: 1 15" Fi BL Fully Loaded Wire: All 1/0g Kicker Hyperflex My YouTube Videos My Fiberglass A-Pillar Build My "Seamless" Looking Box Build My DD1508 T-Line Bandpass Build "Seamless" w/ Acrylic Windows (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Stealth 8" Fiberglass Build (for '05 TrailBlazer) My Build For A Friend's '08 Cobalt 15" BL Sealed Off From The Trunk My feedback/references... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanz Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 YES! You would need to double everything listed for it to work properly. SOOOOOOO pretty much im screwed since the box that i gave him the dimensions for was for TWO subs and i think i wrote to him that i had one(sorry mick my mistake)so i would need 4 ports for both subs and the box i dont think it's big enough for that . Quote That's why they don't deliver. Yer ass better go sit along the side of the road and wait. You can't expect them to travel up some dirt road in a hick / back woods town. Thats how horror movies start I explain things very simply and use analogies in terms of Pickles, and grape drink, pool noodles and jackhammers...if you can't put 2 and 2 together there man, There simply is not much more I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyMcD Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 For two subs? Hell, that explains a LOT. I was wondering if you wanted this woofer to survive long or not..... A second driver? Let me have a play, and I'll spare you the pages of numbers this time mate. Cheers, Mick Quote Work;DiGiCo D1 Live / MIDAS Heratige 1000 / MIDAS VeniceMeyer Sound CQ-1's, CQ-2's, PSW-2'sRAMSA Monitor AmplifiersP.Audio MonitorsBSS OMNIDRIVE and SoundwebDBX 231 and Klark Teknik DN360 EQ'sRCF TT22ARCF ART320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyMcD Posted July 23, 2008 Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Driver : Soundstream T4 Vas : 58.7 Qts : 0.40 Fs : 34.03 SPL : 91.00 -- Project by : MICK Project for : Beanz -- Number of drivers : 2 Box type : Vented Box size : 120.0 l Tuning frequency : 35.00 Hz Vent : 2 vent(s) 0.242 m length for each 0.100 m round Relative Freq Gain Phase SPL [Hz] [dB] [deg] [dB] 20.00 -19.30 270.10 74.71 25.00 -11.63 244.00 82.38 30.00 -5.79 213.32 88.22 35.00 -2.08 179.65 91.93 40.00 -0.45 149.66 93.56 45.00 0.05 127.12 94.06 50.00 0.15 110.80 94.16 55.00 0.13 98.61 94.14 60.00 0.09 89.14 94.10 65.00 0.05 81.50 94.06 70.00 0.03 75.18 94.04 75.00 0.01 69.84 94.02 80.00 -0.01 65.25 94.00 85.00 -0.02 61.26 93.99 90.00 -0.02 57.74 93.99 95.00 -0.03 54.62 93.98 100.00 -0.03 51.83 93.98 This houses two drivers, and performs MUCH better. Vent mach is down and you have a near flat frequency response curve. A touch of cut might not hurt though. Two 4 inch ports still, 242mm long this time. That should do you. Enjoy. Cheers, Mick Quote Work;DiGiCo D1 Live / MIDAS Heratige 1000 / MIDAS VeniceMeyer Sound CQ-1's, CQ-2's, PSW-2'sRAMSA Monitor AmplifiersP.Audio MonitorsBSS OMNIDRIVE and SoundwebDBX 231 and Klark Teknik DN360 EQ'sRCF TT22ARCF ART320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanz Posted July 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2008 Driver : Soundstream T4 Vas : 58.7 Qts : 0.40 Fs : 34.03 SPL : 91.00 -- Project by : MICK Project for : Beanz -- Number of drivers : 2 Box type : Vented Box size : 120.0 l Tuning frequency : 35.00 Hz Vent : 2 vent(s) 0.242 m length for each 0.100 m round Relative Freq Gain Phase SPL [Hz] [dB] [deg] [dB] 20.00 -19.30 270.10 74.71 25.00 -11.63 244.00 82.38 30.00 -5.79 213.32 88.22 35.00 -2.08 179.65 91.93 40.00 -0.45 149.66 93.56 45.00 0.05 127.12 94.06 50.00 0.15 110.80 94.16 55.00 0.13 98.61 94.14 60.00 0.09 89.14 94.10 65.00 0.05 81.50 94.06 70.00 0.03 75.18 94.04 75.00 0.01 69.84 94.02 80.00 -0.01 65.25 94.00 85.00 -0.02 61.26 93.99 90.00 -0.02 57.74 93.99 95.00 -0.03 54.62 93.98 100.00 -0.03 51.83 93.98 This houses two drivers, and performs MUCH better. Vent mach is down and you have a near flat frequency response curve. A touch of cut might not hurt though. Two 4 inch ports still, 242mm long this time. That should do you. Enjoy. Cheers, Mick so pretty much i can make a hole in my enclosure right or would i have to bulid it new?and if i make them that long lke say the 9.5 inches port with the aero ports woulden it hit the magnet of the sub? Quote That's why they don't deliver. Yer ass better go sit along the side of the road and wait. You can't expect them to travel up some dirt road in a hick / back woods town. Thats how horror movies start I explain things very simply and use analogies in terms of Pickles, and grape drink, pool noodles and jackhammers...if you can't put 2 and 2 together there man, There simply is not much more I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyMcD Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 You may have to get creative with these woofers. You have a box 33 inches wide, designate about 30-31 of that to two woofers. You may have to mount the ports through the top of the enclosure. Not the way I'd prefere to do it, but it might be the only way really. Adding ports to a sealed box requires a bit of compromise. Cheers, Mick Quote Work;DiGiCo D1 Live / MIDAS Heratige 1000 / MIDAS VeniceMeyer Sound CQ-1's, CQ-2's, PSW-2'sRAMSA Monitor AmplifiersP.Audio MonitorsBSS OMNIDRIVE and SoundwebDBX 231 and Klark Teknik DN360 EQ'sRCF TT22ARCF ART320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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