SojiaRaggs9000 Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 Well when I built the t-line box for my single 12" dc lvl 4 xl I loved it. I had the it running off of a RF T10001bd mono amp @ 1ohm. I was amazed in how crisp and clean each note sounded. IDK what it is about T-lines but it just let that sub play great. I then upgraded to two 12" DC lvl4 xl running off a DC PAI3000.1 in a custom built ported box. Tuned to 33hz. 2.76³ ft Per Chamber With 2.44³ ft after displacement. And IDK it just doesn't sound as loud as it was before with the single 12" in the t-line box. Anyways I been toying with trying to figure out how to fit two 12" dc lvl4 xls into a t-line box that would fit in my trunk. SO after a bit of thinking etc I came up with the following. The subs would basically be setting in the rear package tray firing up. With the port behind the fold down seats firing forward. Of course, Ill need to do some glass work to fully seal it off from the trunk that way its basically like having a walled enclosure but a t-line Basically it will be a 2 boxes that way each sub has separate chambers. Ill have to build the box partly in the trunk to get it to fit But I think its possible. Thoughts? * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold
zfrerichs Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 you will have a loadin issue like that Roseville, CA
SojiaRaggs9000 Posted July 19, 2009 Author Report Posted July 19, 2009 you will have a loadin issue like that oh? * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold
zfrerichs Posted July 19, 2009 Report Posted July 19, 2009 i dont know how big the gap is on the xls but you will more than likely rock the coils to scratch on the pole. just lose the thing on top and tune it higher Roseville, CA
Boon Posted July 20, 2009 Report Posted July 20, 2009 Lose the little chimney bit or just take it straight down to get rid of that step behind the woofer. zfrerichs is right, you'll get funny loading on the cones. 10.x volts fo' life!
SojiaRaggs9000 Posted July 20, 2009 Author Report Posted July 20, 2009 Oh ic what you mean now. Hmm well crap... I was wondering about that because of how the sub would be 1/2 on a wall and 1/2 open port. Kinda need that "chimney" so that the subs are in the rear package tray area. What if instead of the step I slant it? Like make it basically a 45? If that won't work then what if I do open it up? I thought on t-lines the port needs to stay constant? Wouldn't opening it up mess things up? The port is 7" tall 15" wide 7.26ft long per (box of course) Tuning is around 38.9 so it kinda already up there as it is. * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold
SojiaRaggs9000 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Posted July 26, 2009 Anyone? * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold
Forevrbumpn Posted July 26, 2009 Report Posted July 26, 2009 yeah, simple "U" turn design would be so much easier on you, and the wallet, and the brain- math wise.. lol I have a ritual called "terminator". I crouch in the shower in the "naked terminator" pose. With eyes closed I crouch for a minute and visualize either Arnie or the guy from the 2nd movie. I then start to hum the T2 theme. Slowly I rise to a standing position and open my eyes. It helps me get through my day. The only problem is if the shower curtain sticks to my terminator leg. It sorta ruins the fantasy.
SojiaRaggs9000 Posted July 26, 2009 Author Report Posted July 26, 2009 yeah, simple "U" turn design would be so much easier on you, and the wallet, and the brain- math wise.. lol SO opening/slanting the last bend upward would work or did I miss understand you? Cause Im trying to get a design down. Where the port is firing forward into the cab and the subs firing up at the roof. All sealed off from the trunk so that all the spl is in the cab. As far as cost goes I plan on building the boxes out of 1/2" Trupan UltraLight. If you didn't know Trupan UltraLight MDF weights about 60% less than standard MDF. About 60lbs per 4x8 sheet compared to around 104lbs of standard MDF. But costs about twice as much. Or would it wise to go with Baltic Birch? * Eclipse CD3200 with PAC SWI-CAN2 and SW-ECL2 Steering Wheel Controls Interface* Pioneer D-Series Mids and Highs ( Fronts: TS-D1702C; Rears; TS-D1702R and Dash; TS-D1002R )* Rockford Fosgate PBR300X4 ( Mids and Highs Amp )* DC 3.5k with Dual Inputs; Custom Plexiglass Backing ( Sub Amp )* Rockford Fosgate Balanced Line Driver * One FULLY LOADED ~ 10" DC m2 XL* Custom Built Carpeted Ported Box Tuned to 32hz. Single Chamber With Volume of 1.44618³ ft ; 1.13216³ ft After Displacement* Custom Built Carpeted Trunk Wall with Added Fans for Amplifier Cooling* MechMan 240a High Output Alternator * KnuKonceptz Krystal Kable RCA Cables* Upgraded Electrical With 1/0 KnuKonceptz Kolossus Fleks Kable and 1/0 Sky High Car Audio Cable* Five Exide Orbital ORB34M Marine 12 Volt Batteries* PowerMaster XS D3100 12 Volt Battery My 2008 Chrysler 300 Limited - SuperCharged 3.5L V6 - UBL My Old 2005 Ford Taurus - CarDomain - Vehicle Was Sold
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