IH8PunkRok Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 i think the install looks nice. minus the amp wiring *fire hazard* like others said i wouldnt mix sub sizes and enclosure types regardless of what your dad "knows" he can be wrong and the people on here know a lot about car audio. get two more comps to repace those tens and build 1 box with some good port area. it will be louder and "hit" harder. guaranteed this is constructive criticism too so dont snap at me and blame it on your bi polar adhd nonsense. just listen to me and believe me because i promise i am right -Matt2005 Dodge Magnum RTJVC KD-AVX1 2 PPI S580.2 Obsidian Audio ST1 Horn Tweeters PRV 8MB450s Audio Legion 3500.1D 2 RE MT 18s 360 ah LiFePO4 BatterySHCA 2/0 155.2 @ 29 hzKicker CVR 15's buildDD 3512e buildMini T-Line Build(6) 8s BuildNightshade 15s Wall BuildMagnum AB XFL 12s BuildNewest Magnum Build
alan412 Posted December 21, 2009 Report Posted December 21, 2009 Vids? (Headunit) Pioneer DEH-P3100UB (Speakers) Phoenix Gold RSd 65cs (4 Channel) Alpine MRP-F300 (Subs) 2 15" Audioque SDC2.5 (Box) 7.27 cubic feet tuned to 31 Hz (Mono Amplifier) Elemental Designs Nine.1 (Wiring) 1/0 Knukonceptz KLMX (Batteries) 2 C&D Tech 75 a/h
BeachJoshua Posted December 21, 2009 Author Report Posted December 21, 2009 any vids yet? Yeah, but my lazy ass has to upload them... and I mean you guys wanted stuff about the wiring... oh and who ever said that about the trampoline and the movement, yeah the 10's have hell of a lot of xmax where as the kicker 12's have like none, but I know that kicker comp at recommended power never have xmax to the extreme some subs do. | S-10 | 4.5^3 ft | 33Hz | SAE-1000D @ 1 Ohm | 2 SA-12s | SPL: 143.7 Sealed | 153.4 Port Wars
FiBTLforlife Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 I'm so lost as to where people think I'm going to learn so much, my dad is 39 now, and he's been building boxes and installing systems for himself and his friends since he was 16 or so, this system was meant to be inexpensive but sound good, the 12's and tens are in there because the amp runs the sub channel at 4 ohms, running just the 10's or the 12's caused the amp to over heat, I have pics some where of the build up but IDK where they are but I had just the 12's in there for one day before we realized why it was always over heating and cutting out with just the 10's...my point... stop saying I'm going to learn... and what not, and just say what you want me to know... what the hell am I supposed to be learning? ok kid, first off you seem to be pretty cocky at times which thats cool but some people on here might kick you dont from it. first off since your talking about ur dad thats cool and all, but what does that have to do with you. anyway here is a list of things, if you have no idea what im talking about that just what we mean by you are going to learn. ok get ready, sit down, class is starting 1.box rise 2. amplifier ohm load 3. wiring up subwoofer to proper ohm load 4. what is ohm load 5. what is rms 6. how do you calculate your port area for you box 7. how do you determan the sqin of port to cuft of box 8. what is clipping 9. how do you prevent clipping 10. how do your properly set your gain knob on your amp 11. why do you not mix subs in a system 12. understanding the concept of cuft of a box and why its important 12. fiberglassing 13. box flex, why is this bad 14. amplifier heating 15. how to wire a amp up properly 16. why do you use pollyfill 17. how do you determine the rms your amp is putting out during a 45hz burp for example 18. understanding resistance and volt drop problems 19. wiring up multiple batteries 20. wiring up multiple subwoofers. ****21**** learning how to take in peoples comments and statements and learn from it, and not act like you already konw everything because i can add another 100 items to this list . 2 AQ 10'' HDC3 copper subs 1 3500d AQ amp 146.3db on TL with stock electrical in single cab truck at 32hz RESULT: 1st place at comp, 3rd overall out of 20 cars
audiogod9000 Posted December 22, 2009 Report Posted December 22, 2009 1.box rise2. amplifier ohm load 3. wiring up subwoofer to proper ohm load 4. what is ohm load 5. what is rms 6. how do you calculate your port area for you box 7. how do you determan the sqin of port to cuft of box 8. what is clipping 9. how do you prevent clipping 10. how do your properly set your gain knob on your amp 11. why do you not mix subs in a system 12. understanding the concept of cuft of a box and why its important 12. fiberglassing 13. box flex, why is this bad 14. amplifier heating 15. how to wire a amp up properly 16. why do you use pollyfill 17. how do you determine the rms your amp is putting out during a 45hz burp for example 18. understanding resistance and volt drop problems 19. wiring up multiple batteries 20. wiring up multiple subwoofers. ****21**** learning how to take in peoples comments and statements and learn from it, and not act like you already know everything because i can add another 100 items to this list . couldn't have said it better my self Anyway looks good for a starter system (first and second systems are always starter systems imo). oh and if i where you i would clean up that amp wiring , that kind of wiring = BIG fire hazard. EAST TEXAS BASS HEAD 4 LIFE EAST TEXAS BASS HEAD 4 LIFE EAST TEXAS BASS HEAD 4 LIFE EAST TEXAS BASS HEAD 4 LIFE EAST TEXAS BASS HEAD 4 LIFE Jeep electronics = Stock (for now) Headunit = VR3 cheapo Speakers = Pioneer and Quantum Audio Sub Amp = Sundown SAE-1200d Sub = Fi SSD 15'' Mid/High amp = Sold my 4ch, Lookin for a new one now.... REFS: Bought From-Twistedchild420 ,J_black10,SojiaRaggs9000,hotshot27, REFS: Sold To- James , sanitarium , qu1cks1lver56, skittlesRgood Offical Audiogod9000 Feedback Audiogod9000's 1997 Jeep Cherokee Country Build
BeachJoshua Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 ok kid, first off you seem to be pretty cocky at times which thats cool but some people on here might kick you dont from it. first off since your talking about ur dad thats cool and all, but what does that have to do with you. anyway here is a list of things, if you have no idea what im talking about that just what we mean by you are going to learn. ok get ready, sit down, class is starting1.box rise 2. amplifier ohm load 3. wiring up subwoofer to proper ohm load 4. what is ohm load 5. what is rms 6. how do you calculate your port area for you box 7. how do you determan the sqin of port to cuft of box 8. what is clipping 9. how do you prevent clipping 10. how do your properly set your gain knob on your amp 11. why do you not mix subs in a system 12. understanding the concept of cuft of a box and why its important 12. fiberglassing 13. box flex, why is this bad 14. amplifier heating 15. how to wire a amp up properly 16. why do you use pollyfill 17. how do you determine the rms your amp is putting out during a 45hz burp for example 18. understanding resistance and volt drop problems 19. wiring up multiple batteries 20. wiring up multiple subwoofers. ****21**** learning how to take in peoples comments and statements and learn from it, and not act like you already konw everything because i can add another 100 items to this list . 1. Link to this info please. 2, 3, 4. The amp is rated at 300 watts max on the sub channle, which means with the way I have my subs wired, the 12's are 4 ohms... they are in parallel which means that's 2 ohms... the tens are 4 ohm's which means since they're in parallel that's 2 ohms... so 2 ohms and 2 ohms is 4 ohms... correct me if I'm wrong. 5. RMS is basically the average performance of an amp I think.... and you should go my RMS because it is more reliable that max. There is some formula for adding up the fuses in an amp and dividing it by some number to get in the area of the RMS but I forgot it, but basically I know the jist of it. 6. Online box calculator. <- Not reliable? then guess I'm wrong. 7. see 6... 8, 9. I HAVE NO IDEA! 10. My dad knows this... 11. someone has explained this on here, but like I said the 12's and 10's are in there because other wise the amp over heats... I think they said something about phase. 12. What about it... Matt... Resin... I mean I know theres alot to it, but are you suggesting I fiberglass? 13. Box flex idk? why bad... because I assume this means your box is bending, and this is prob the result of using thin MDF or too thin what ever you make your box out of, and also, I know MDF is not the only material to build out of, but yes I used 3/4 inch MDF. 14. all I know is at 2 ohm load on my amp, it was over heating. 15. okay your the 1000000th person to say something about this.... what is wrong with the wires on my amp? 16. Uh theres polyfill in my sealed box with the 10's.... I read alot on it a while back forgot now. 17. Do tell? 18. Do tell or link? 19. I don't have more than one battery right now... don't believe I need it either. but I might one day. 20. I kind of need a more specific deal on this one... 21. Sorry bout all that crap at first... yeh I got cocky... now, I'm reading and learning... or trying too.... uh and don't add to the list just for the hell of it, but seriously add to the list because I want to know and I would like links please, and thanks! Help me out if I got any of this wrong, or a lil off... or whatever... I'm ready to not be a dick... | S-10 | 4.5^3 ft | 33Hz | SAE-1000D @ 1 Ohm | 2 SA-12s | SPL: 143.7 Sealed | 153.4 Port Wars
BeachJoshua Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/user/BeachJoshua Uhm.... Yeah some vids... but IDK where the one went showing the wiring and what not... but like I said all the wiring you can see is in the front the rest is under the carpet.... | S-10 | 4.5^3 ft | 33Hz | SAE-1000D @ 1 Ohm | 2 SA-12s | SPL: 143.7 Sealed | 153.4 Port Wars
BeachJoshua Posted December 24, 2009 Author Report Posted December 24, 2009 i think the install looks nice. minus the amp wiring *fire hazard*like others said i wouldnt mix sub sizes and enclosure types regardless of what your dad "knows" he can be wrong and the people on here know a lot about car audio. get two more comps to repace those tens and build 1 box with some good port area. it will be louder and "hit" harder. guaranteed this is constructive criticism too so dont snap at me and blame it on your bi polar adhd nonsense. just listen to me and believe me because i promise i am right explain this fire hazard thing.... I saw those pics... and I've heard about stuff like that but can you tell me whats wrong with mine? Thanks man! maybe you can teach me about some neons after I paint my truck flat black haha... you know how to wire them up so they pulse with the bass? and I like that last line man... you sound like my mom and dad... mainly dad... again on that enclosure sub mixing what not.... I had to do the subs cause of the amp over heatin oh and about the 2 more comps... I want to put 3 15's or maybe 4 in there but I bet I don't have this truck long enough for it to anyhting that isn't removable.... which is 90 percent of the reason for not doin a wall, or fiberglassing.... | S-10 | 4.5^3 ft | 33Hz | SAE-1000D @ 1 Ohm | 2 SA-12s | SPL: 143.7 Sealed | 153.4 Port Wars
CLNFREAK Posted December 24, 2009 Report Posted December 24, 2009 what is the port tuned to ? looks small
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