teamace24 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I have a yukon 2007 and i installed an Mtx 4 channel MXA4004 amplifier bridged to a set of Diamond Audio Components hex s600 6.5 inch mids and two tweeters. I am not running the 2 back door speakers since i dont want to buy some and do not plan on it i just want a front stage. So my front doors are not dynamated or sound deadened at all all stock. I have the crossovers that came with the components connected as well. I am bridging the amp to 2 channels so i am giving 200 watts rms x 2 at 4 ohms. Now my tweeters are loud and nice but i put my head down near the two doors and i swear there is sound but no where near the sound my tweeters are giving me. My gains are set right but i have no midbass at all just voice but not loud at all. For 200 watts to each side i was expecting a very loud midbass to go along with the loud tweeters. I have been playing it like that for a couple of months but only because my tweeters are very loud enough. Is it my lack of dynamat or any sound deading? Any info will help i installed some $60 phoenix gold components in an old school dodge ram running 60 watts total to them and the midbass was very loud and these $200 components specifically the midbass i cant get loud voice and midbass sound out of. Quote 1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamace24 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Any suggestions will help i really want my front stage to be louder with my 2 15 aq sdc that are going in the next couple of days. My mids do not have to have the bass but i want the voice coming out of them to be really loud like old school jbl and pioneers 6x9 used to be. Quote 1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chipmunk-Alero Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 (edited) Play around with the gain, as well as the HPF/LPF Idont really know much about car audio but im just trying to help you out. Edited January 30, 2010 by Chipmunk-Alero Quote 2001 Oldsmobile Alero 4Dr GL2 - R.I.P.2006 Dodge Charger R/TJVC KDx40AudioQ 2200d Big 3 and KNU 1/0 Fi BL 15" (09 model) 4.2 cuft net @ 33hz(15.8 sq in per cube) 1999 Ford Ranger XLTPioneer DEH-6200btRockford Fosgate T400-4, T1500-1bdCP, T1 6.5" Components, RCA's, Distro blocks.1 Fi Car Audio BL 12 - 2.5 cuft net @31hz(16.8 sq in per cube)XS Power S3400, 2 KNU 1/0 runs and KNU Big 3. Build Log ----> http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/topic/170878-99-ford-ranger-fi-rockford-xs-power/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamace24 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Play around with the gain, as well as the HPF/LPFIdont really know much about car audio but im just trying to help you out. Yeah i dont know if i have to reword my question maybe thats why im not getting responses but yeah i have the filter allowing from 80hz to up and the gain a little less than 1/2 but im not getting loud mids like i want the voice from the songs to be loud from there like my mids from my ram truck with only 30 watts to each side are. Quote 1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finkster Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 make sure ypour hps is switched to ON if there is such a switch on your amp. make sure u didnt accidentally mess up the wiring from the crossovers. Quote DAT 4125------>RE XXX comps active Eclipse cd7000 I serve drunks for a living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamace24 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 make sure ypour hps is switched to ON if there is such a switch on your amp. make sure u didnt accidentally mess up the wiring from the crossovers. Yeah my hpf is set to on and i do get some voice from the mids although very low so im sure my crossover wires are connected right. Also if i buy dynamat or that peel and seal stuff from lowes do you think i will get a huge difference in loudness since my doors dont have any are they are not the most sealed doors you ever seen at all. Quote 1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raytard Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 what freq is the hpf at? it should be like 80-100hz, the knob will have some numbers on it so just give it a guess as to where that is.whats the eq like? do the xovers have a+3db tweeter option or anything like that? Quote Build: http://www.stevemeadedesigns.com/board/ind...hl=avalon+build monster/rockford/kicker/stinger cables, pioneer source, jbl highs/amps, kinetik/shuriken batts, iraggi alt, dei security, dc subs(atleast for now) Team DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Boy Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 If i had to guess you have the power going into the crossover wrong. Sounds like you have the input into the tweeter's input as if you where going to bi amp. Quote Dodge Magnum with custom 300c front end, laid out on air bags *4) 12" Cadence Daytona walled *1) AudioQue 20k *270a DC Power Alt (Dual coming soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamace24 Posted January 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 what freq is the hpf at? it should be like 80-100hz, the knob will have some numbers on it so just give it a guess as to where that is.whats the eq like? do the xovers have a+3db tweeter option or anything like that? Yes my frequency is at 90hz and yes my xovers have a tweeter option exactly with the db you stated but when i upped this it only made my tweeters even louder so i left it normal. Quote 1st Setup(SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 Audioque SDC2.5 15 subs8.7 cubes at 37hz build DONEAudioque 1200d (Audioque 1200d Sold, similar performance to my ap1500)Diamond Audio Hex 6.5 Mids n TweetsCerwin Vega Exl 400 4 channel Bridged(also have MTX 4004 not being used)1 Run of power Knu Fleks 4 Gauge2 Cheap stock Battery setup2nd Setup (SOLD):2007 GMC YukonPioneer Avic F90bt Audiocontrol Epicenter2 15 Kicker cvx (maybe two SA 15 in future)7 cubes net tuned at 34hzAlphasonik Old school 1600rms (ap 1500d sold GREAT Budget amp)JBL 6.5 Power Series Components, Infinity Kappa 6.5 3 ways, and 2 Kicker KS Tweets (LOUD)Cerwin vega exl4001 run knu Fleks OFC 0 gaugeBig 3 done1 Odyssey 1500, 1 optima yellow top d31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sable Nave Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 this might sound stupid, but did you check your connections and are you sure you aren't using the RAF instead of the woofer output on the crossover? Quote Car 1996 Sable LS 8,000K Bi-Xenon HID's Pioneer Premier DEX-P1R Diamond Audio D351, Diamond Audio D362i, Diamond D3TAK off Kicker ZX200.4 Custom 15" 13w7 motor, 3.5" aluminum coils dual 1 ohm off NV-AM25001 Dynamat Dynaliner Second Skin Damplifier Pro Stock 130A Alternator My Build Truck 1995 Ford F-150 Flareside XLT 10,000K Bi-Xenon HID's, 15,000K Bi-Xenon HID's Kicker KS6502, KS400 off Pioneer Premier PRS-D4100F Truck Build Ref(s) Rogers, Jared, Mikesmith0890, Twigz, DHFHades, BASS14, Solo_X18, mrafrica, camino_1to3, kickerassman [speakerman9000] 5:43 pm: if sony sucks so bad how come my amps still work when i had 3 12s on it [capalass23] 11:27 pm: wow u grand man poopin out babys like hto cakes [KevinniveK] can u have sex later please hes helping me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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