billy101 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Posted July 27, 2010 Hi, I've got a 2001 Impala LS, and would like to start making upgrades to the sound system in it. It's got 6x9's in the rear deck, and 6.5's in the front doors. The 6x9s are blown. They sound like ass, and the tweeters don't work anymore either. I was looking at the Kicker KS6930s for the rear deck, but was concerned with if the stock head unit will power them enough to move them. I need speakers that will produce enough bass for the time being; being that I don't have money to get an aftermarket head unit, or amplifiers for a sub woofer. It has an amplifier mounted on the top of the trunk area, and that powers the speakers; that came stock. For the fronts, I was looking at Kicker 07DS600s. Let me know what you think, and any responses are appreciated. Thank you. First System 2002 Impala LS 3.8L V6, 128,365k miles. Alternator: DC Power 190Amp H/O Alternator Headunit: Kenwood KDC-BT945U. Speakers: MBQuart 6.5" Comps, 6x9 3-way. Amplifer: Eclipse 3322 on front 6.5 components, and a Infinity Kappa One @ 2ohm- 800w Subwoofers: 2 REAudio SRX12D2 wired to 2 ohm. Box: 3.1cuft box tuned to 33hz. sealed off to cabin Big 3- done with all Knukonceptz KCA 0 gauge. Don't drop below 14.1v at full tilt.
xxdemonxx01 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Posted July 27, 2010 Yeah it should but go with dd front and back I put them in mine and they sound really good
dugee81 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Posted July 27, 2010 I assume the rears and tweets are blown because they were clipped by the stock head unit. Replacing the speakers with aftermarket ones will sound better, but you can still kill them easily by overdriving them with dirty signal. Edit; I was just throwing that out there, jus so you knew incase you didn't 200a alt. by Excessive Amperage hc800 under hood & 2 Deka 9a31 in rear 1/0awg + big 3 SAZ 3000D HDC3 18" @ 2 ohm
billy101 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Posted July 27, 2010 I assume the rears and tweets are blown because they were clipped by the stock head unit. Replacing the speakers with aftermarket ones will sound better, but you can still kill them easily by overdriving them with dirty signal. I don't know if it's that. They're almost 10 years old, and it only sounds bad the louder you turn it up. When you turn it a little more than 3/4 way up, you start to hear a cracking noise from the rear left, and a faint crack from the rear right one. I'm really just wondering if those speakers will be given enough watts to be pushed enough. Right now they're moving at about 1/2in to 3/4in. First System 2002 Impala LS 3.8L V6, 128,365k miles. Alternator: DC Power 190Amp H/O Alternator Headunit: Kenwood KDC-BT945U. Speakers: MBQuart 6.5" Comps, 6x9 3-way. Amplifer: Eclipse 3322 on front 6.5 components, and a Infinity Kappa One @ 2ohm- 800w Subwoofers: 2 REAudio SRX12D2 wired to 2 ohm. Box: 3.1cuft box tuned to 33hz. sealed off to cabin Big 3- done with all Knukonceptz KCA 0 gauge. Don't drop below 14.1v at full tilt.
BJD3 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Posted July 27, 2010 I'd recommend leaving the rear doors empty. All rear fill will accomplish is pulling your soundstage rearward. Contrary to popular belief, adding rear fill doesn't really make your mids and highs louder, especially when you're in the front seats. Try this. While sitting in your car, turn the fader knob where the sound is all in the front of the car. Doesn't really get louder does it? But now it sounds almost as if the sound is coming from in front of you. Like it does at a concert. But its your money. Do what makes you happy. Anti Peel and Seal...lol You may be offended by the above. Don't take it personally, I'm just abrasive. 2002 Buick Park Avenue DC Level 4 M2 12 D2 Car Audio Bargain 1600.1 Eclipse CD3200 ~2 cubes @ 34 hz. Stinger Roadkill Expert
billy101 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Posted July 27, 2010 I'd recommend leaving the rear doors empty. All rear fill will accomplish is pulling your soundstage rearward. Contrary to popular belief, adding rear fill doesn't really make your mids and highs louder, especially when you're in the front seats. Try this. While sitting in your car, turn the fader knob where the sound is all in the front of the car. Doesn't really get louder does it? But now it sounds almost as if the sound is coming from in front of you. Like it does at a concert. But its your money. Do what makes you happy. There are no speakers in the rear doors, they are in the rear deck, behind the seats. I understand what you're saying about adding rear fill doesn't make mids and highs louder. I'm looking for 6x9s that will produce enough bass until around december, when I can get enough money to get some subs. Question is, will the HU w/ the amp thats mounted in the back power the speakers enough? & No, it doesn't get louder when I put the fader knob to the front, but then I have almost NO bass. First System 2002 Impala LS 3.8L V6, 128,365k miles. Alternator: DC Power 190Amp H/O Alternator Headunit: Kenwood KDC-BT945U. Speakers: MBQuart 6.5" Comps, 6x9 3-way. Amplifer: Eclipse 3322 on front 6.5 components, and a Infinity Kappa One @ 2ohm- 800w Subwoofers: 2 REAudio SRX12D2 wired to 2 ohm. Box: 3.1cuft box tuned to 33hz. sealed off to cabin Big 3- done with all Knukonceptz KCA 0 gauge. Don't drop below 14.1v at full tilt.
BJD3 Posted July 27, 2010 Report Posted July 27, 2010 There are no speakers in the rear doors, they are in the rear deck, behind the seats. I understand what you're saying about adding rear fill doesn't make mids and highs louder. I'm looking for 6x9s that will produce enough bass until around december, when I can get enough money to get some subs. Question is, will the HU w/ the amp thats mounted in the back power the speakers enough? & No, it doesn't get louder when I put the fader knob to the front, but then I have almost NO bass. Aah. Sorry. I missed the actual question. That factory amplifier should be enough to power those speakers to a decent level. You'll get a cleaner and louder sound by getting a good aftermarket amplifier, but you don't necessarily NEED an aftermarket amp to push aftermarket speakers. Anti Peel and Seal...lol You may be offended by the above. Don't take it personally, I'm just abrasive. 2002 Buick Park Avenue DC Level 4 M2 12 D2 Car Audio Bargain 1600.1 Eclipse CD3200 ~2 cubes @ 34 hz. Stinger Roadkill Expert
billy101 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Report Posted July 27, 2010 Aah. Sorry. I missed the actual question. That factory amplifier should be enough to power those speakers to a decent level. You'll get a cleaner and louder sound by getting a good aftermarket amplifier, but you don't necessarily NEED an aftermarket amp to push aftermarket speakers. Awesome. I was just reading on a forum, where someone said that bypassing the amplifier in the trunk would make the rear speakers sound much louder, possibly blowing the stock speakers.. Here is what he said. Quote: "Second, while I still had the factory radio in, I bypassed the stock amplifier that was located under the back dash. The sound the amplifier produced left a lot to be desired on the low frequencies. After bypassing the amplifier, the stock head unit put out speaker level sound rather than low level. It turns out that there is a wire running from the amp to the radio telling the radio that an amp is present. With control over the sound being controlled by the radio, the bass was a lot louder. If you have stock speakers then you would probably blow them." Would this in turn make the aftermarket speakers sound better? I sure hope so. There are a lot of rumors going around about there being faulty amplifiers in some Impalas. First System 2002 Impala LS 3.8L V6, 128,365k miles. Alternator: DC Power 190Amp H/O Alternator Headunit: Kenwood KDC-BT945U. Speakers: MBQuart 6.5" Comps, 6x9 3-way. Amplifer: Eclipse 3322 on front 6.5 components, and a Infinity Kappa One @ 2ohm- 800w Subwoofers: 2 REAudio SRX12D2 wired to 2 ohm. Box: 3.1cuft box tuned to 33hz. sealed off to cabin Big 3- done with all Knukonceptz KCA 0 gauge. Don't drop below 14.1v at full tilt.
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