corteznewbie Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) well when i talk to one the agm reps when i worked at orielly auto he said they didnt emit fumes thats why the are safe to place in a car. theres no liquid acid to produce harmful fumes other wise everyone with batteries would be sick and in the hospital and fyi this thread is about voltage not baking and replacing batteries Edited October 17, 2010 by corteznewbie Quote Team DBs (Driven By sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 well when i talk to one the agm reps when i worked at orielly auto he said they didnt emit fumes thats why the are safe to place in a car. theres no liquid acid to produce harmful fumes other wise everyone with batteries would be sick and in the hospital and fyi this thread is about voltage not baking and replacing batteries If you OVERCHARGE, which running at 15 volts constant is overcharging, that will emit gas. WOW!!!! Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corteznewbie Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) so if theres no liquid acid how will it produde gasses wow ya self an my main question since you seem to be a know it all where should i set my voltage regulator so i dont drop past 14.4 on hard bass drops. so since you have all the answer tell me where the regulator should be set??? i'm waitingand why isnt dc kyle toasten heis batts at 15.1 volts or steve him self runs at 15.3 and guess what no toasted batts or gasses wow Edited October 17, 2010 by corteznewbie Quote Team DBs (Driven By sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 so if theres no liquid acid how will it produde gasses wow ya self an my main question since you seem to be a know it all where should i set my voltage regulator so i dont drop past 14.4 on hard bass drops. so since you have all the answer tell me where the regulator should be set??? i'm waiting Read this AGM battery so you don't have to take my word for it. If you are dropping voltage, since you asked, you don't have the current from the alt to supply the demand, upgrade your alt. If you need more info I would be glad to help. Not trying to come off as a dick if I did, just trying to help and save you headaches that I have already experienced several times over. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 well when i talk to one the agm reps when i worked at orielly auto he said they didnt emit fumes thats why the are safe to place in a car. theres no liquid acid to produce harmful fumes other wise everyone with batteries would be sick and in the hospital and fyi this thread is about voltage not baking and replacing batteries Even AGM batteries gas and squeal like a pig when over charged. I have a nsb90 that is bulged, gasses, and squeals. It was used in our street b car for competition and was charged at a very high voltage to get the most out of the amp for compeitions without exceeding the voltage limit for the class. And this is a AGM battery so that proves Orielly's wrong But under normal conditions AGM batteries do not release any sort of gasses and are safe for to be inside the vehicle cabin, and installed which ever way but upside down in many cases. As for charging at 15 volts to a agm battery, that is fine. I charge my D3100s at 15.2-15.5 volts with 3 DC Power alternators and have zero issues with them what so ever.. And did I mention these batteries are over 5 years old and are still rock solid! AGM batteries require a higher charging voltage to be fully charge. Normally a 12 volt battery charges around 14volts A 16 volt battery charges around 18 volts. A good AGM battery should rest around 13 volts or so, so if rests at 13 you should charge it around 15volts. (rest meaning fully charged, with no current draw on the battery) Ive never heard of a XS Power battery having issues being charge at the 15volt range, nor had any problems with mine. However I have read stories of Kinetic batteries overheating and bulging from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 so if theres no liquid acid how will it produde gasses wow ya self an my main question since you seem to be a know it all where should i set my voltage regulator so i dont drop past 14.4 on hard bass drops. so since you have all the answer tell me where the regulator should be set??? i'm waitingand why isnt dc kyle toasten heis batts at 15.1 volts or steve him self runs at 15.3 and guess what no toasted batts or gasses wow Since you asked about these two different people, if they are charging that high once they are in hot float mode of the alts, then they are overcharging if they are running that high, and emit gas from the batts. It is chemistry there is no way around it. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corteznewbie Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) Read this AGM battery so you don't have to take my word for it. If you are dropping voltage, since you asked, you don't have the current from the alt to supply the demand, upgrade your alt. If you need more info I would be glad to help. Not trying to come off as a dick if I did, just trying to help and save you headaches that I have already experienced several times over. already did a alt upgrade only reason i have a adjustable voltage reg is cause on 96 jeep grand cherokee the voltage is contraled by the ecu so there for i gotta bypass that and i need the sweet spot of 14.4 thats where my amp reaches its peak rms power Edited October 17, 2010 by corteznewbie Quote Team DBs (Driven By sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Even AGM batteries gas and squeal like a pig when over charged. I have a nsb90 that is bulged, gasses, and squeals. It was used in our street b car for competition and was charged at a very high voltage to get the most out of the amp for compeitions without exceeding the voltage limit for the class. And this is a AGM battery so that proves Orielly's wrong But under normal conditions AGM batteries do not release any sort of gasses and are safe for to be inside the vehicle cabin, and installed which ever way but upside down in many cases. As for charging at 15 volts to a agm battery, that is fine. I charge my D3100s at 15.2-15.5 volts with 3 DC Power alternators and have zero issues with them what so ever.. And did I mention these batteries are over 5 years old and are still rock solid! AGM batteries require a higher charging voltage to be fully charge. Normally a 12 volt battery charges around 14volts A 16 volt battery charges around 18 volts. A good AGM battery should rest around 13 volts or so, so if rests at 13 you should charge it around 15volts. (rest meaning fully charged, with no current draw on the battery) Ive never heard of a XS Power battery having issues being charge at the 15volt range, nor had any problems with mine. However I have read stories of Kinetic batteries overheating and bulging from it. I bulged my d3400 from just charging at 14.7 constant for 4 hours. So it happens with less voltage if the heat is right. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 already did a alt upgrade only reason i have a adjustable voltage reg is cause on 96 jeep grand cherokee the voltage is contraled by the ecu so there for i gotta bypass that and i need the sweet spot of 14.4 thats where my amp reaches its peak rms power How many amps your amp pull full tilt and what your alt put out full tilt? Amps wise. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audiofanaticz Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 I bulged my d3400 from just charging at 14.7 constant for 4 hours. So it happens with less voltage if the heat is right. Chances are you didnt train your battery like I have mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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