corteznewbie Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 daily i want my amp at peak rms i'm choken it so to say right now at 13.8 cuz of the ecu Quote Team DBs (Driven By sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Bottom line constant high charging past 15 volts is not good ever on a 12 volt agm. People will say oh I do it, but there is alot of variables to consider that are not the same as your setup. Temperature makes a huge difference in what you can charge batteries at just to name one. It is your choice, but I wouldn't do it until you understand it more and realize what is going on with the battery when the voltage gets that high. Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 daily i want my amp at peak rms i'm choken it so to say right now at 13.8 cuz of the ecu Bring it up to 14.7 - 14.8 and see what your drop is? Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corteznewbie Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 again the main question was where should i set it at so it drops only to 14.4 i never said i would put it to 15v just asked if it was safe Quote Team DBs (Driven By sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMI CUSTOMS Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 (edited) again the main question was where should i set it at so it drops only to 14.4 i never said i would put it to 15v just asked if it was safe See my post above, but if you aren't dropping when you are charging at 13.8 ecu controlled, then you probably won't drop at 14.4 if you alt can supply the current demand at 14.4 Volts. So you might just have to set it at 14.4 volts, it is hard to say exactly where it should be, there is some unknowns, like size of cable, how far apart are the batteries, big 3 done, what brand of cable, how far are the batts from the amp, do you have strong grounds? All that changes voltage....LOL Edited October 17, 2010 by AMI CUSTOMS Quote TEAM SOUNDQUBED -- TEAM SOUTH TEAM S.O.B. - Founder & Captain 3x Streetbeat World Record Holder 2017 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2016 MWSPL 1st place Mayhem/2nd Adv 4/2nd Xtreme 4 2015 MWSPL 2nd place Mayhem & 4th Xtreme 4 2014 USACI 2nd place Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db 2014 MWSPL 2nd place Xtreme 4 - 144.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db 2013 USACI 1st place Street Q+ - 162.8 db 2013 MWSPL 3rd Kaos2 & 4th Xtreme 4 2011 USACI 2nd place MOD 1001-2k - 160.0 db 2011 MWSPL 4th place: Adv3 - 157.8 db, Kaos2 - 150s db, Xtreme4 - 140s db 2010 ARSPL 1st place 501-750 - 160.3 db Arkansas loudest Best score to date 164.4 db - Termlab Outlaw Streetbeat 4 - 161.9 db Streetbeat 5 - 162.6 db MWSPL on Dash Legal door open (Music) - 162.5 db Sealed on dash Legal (Music) - 161.1 db - Termlab THE BLACK NASTY CURRENT BUILD & FAB The Black Nasty (6) 15 Rebuild Log 2012 (4) 15 Walled Sierra Build Log Evo X build log Facebook page The Black Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corteznewbie Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 See my post above, but if you aren't dropping when you are charging at 13.8 ecu controlled, then you probably won't drop at 14.4 if you alt can supply the current demand at 14.4 Volts. So you might just have to set it at 14.4 volts, it is hard to say exactly where it should be, there is some unknowns, like size of cable, how far apart are the batteries, big 3 done, what brand of cable, how far are the batts from the amp, do you have strong grounds? All that changes voltage....LOL all wire other than remote is 1/0 big 3 is done theres bout 12 13 feet between batt and bout a foot or so between sec battery and amp Quote Team DBs (Driven By sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MECHMAN Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Guys, EVERY AGM battery manufacturer has a published 14.7 volt (or lower) maximum safe charging voltage. AGM batteries absolutely can and WILL emit gas (his) when overheated. (I've done it many times) Internal cell temperature is a function of ambient temperature of the battery, charging current (amperage) and charging voltage. In extremely hot Las Vegas summers, I have seen AGM batteries actually swell near the point of explosion being charged at 14.7 volts. In extremely cold climates, you can sometimes get away with higher charging voltages, especially if the alternator current going into the batteries is low. If you want your batteries to last a long time, and don't want to run the risk of swelling the battery and voiding your warranty, just charge at 14.7 volts and be happy. The difference in performance between 14.7 and 15.0 volts is almost nothing, and the voltage will likely fall to the same point under a load anyway. If you want higher voltages, do it right and buy 14 volt batteries. Quote 1-888-MECHMAN www.Mechman.com [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corteznewbie Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 how much are 14v batteries? and i guys the battery rep for o'rielly better get his shit straight he told me they wont emit gas cause the the glass matting cells Quote Team DBs (Driven By sound) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugee81 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I ran my alt at over 15 volts.. My rear batts were seeing 14.9-15.1 so I can only imagine what my front kinetik was seeing. Needless to say, it sounds like a snake! Hisssssssssss lol Quote 200a alt. by Excessive Amperage hc800 under hood & 2 Deka 9a31 in rear 1/0awg + big 3 SAZ 3000D HDC3 18" @ 2 ohm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUNKYOU007 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I have 5 batteries in my truck, yellow top and the other 4 are Kinetik. I use an MLA that has a H/L setting. I have been running this setup for a while now, almost two years. I used to keep the MLA on high all the time. So far my Kinetiks are perfect. But my Optima... doesn't like it so much anymore. If i charge on high for more than 30 mins...it will start hissing and you can smell, what to me, smells like sulfur. So yes they will emit gas and it is not recommend to charge them that high...unfortunately. BTW my truck has Charge up into 16volts on a cold morning with the MLA on High. On a normal day with it on high I sit around 15.3 and on low 14.7-.8 Quote Doethepaperboy "Bars of Pain" Doethepaperboy "Hero Remix" C. Arson d(-__-)b beer sucks...but i can bring some jose cuervo. Only problem is that it makes me horny and gives me the rams. So unless yall wanna fight and then have some great make up sex i will leave it home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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