sundownz Posted December 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2010 lets see some magic box numbers. Once I get one in a 15" we will do it ! Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted December 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 The X-12 will be around $285 MAP or so -- similar progression in pricing difference per size as the SA line as well. Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 I will also be adding an internal aluminum shorting ring standard on these -- a feature not commonly found on woofers in this category. This reduces inductance, flattens the inductance curve, improves power delivery by lowering reactive rise, and also is a bit of a heat-sink (minimal). Our Z v.2 (and v.3) and Nightshade v.2 models feature this as well and I decided to trickle it down Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Sundown's Charles Posted December 9, 2010 Report Share Posted December 9, 2010 are there any vids on these yet? Quote 1993 Mazda Mx-3 Subs: 2 18" DC Audio Lvl 4 D.7 Highs amp: Sundown SAX-100.4 Sub amp: Sundown SAZ-3000D Electrical:Kinetik 1200 under hood, 2-Kinetik 2400 rear All 1/0 KnuKonceptz Wire Power/Ground, Big 3, 8Ga Speaker Wire, KnuKonceptz Karma RCA's Dampening: 120sqft 80Mil Thick Sound Destroyer Mat Goal: 150 DB 149.9 Street Bass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 We did our thermal cycle test on the X-12 with CCAW coil (final will have copper which we will also test) -- 1000 watts starting power for 5 minutes dropped to 900 across the duration so 10% compression... cranked up to ~1200-1250 and played for another 90 seconds before thermal failure. Again, our 60 Hz thermal test is brutal and we have fried MANY other drivers in ~2 minutes at their rated power levels. It's a very difficult test. All of our subs must pass for at LEAST 5 minutes to get their rating and we usually crank them up past rated after the 5 minute cycle as well. It's a long boring video and not quite a production model so I won't upload it -- when we do the copper production unit I will. Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdorre Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Are the subs tested in free air? Based on the failure rates, I'd assume so. Quote On 5/8/2011 at 7:38 PM, Kranny said: On 5/8/2011 at 7:35 PM, 'Maxim' said: It hurts me inside when I read stuff like this and remember you're 15 LMFAO so true Mitsubishi 3000GT (Old Build) Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS Frontstage: (2) McLaren Audio MLT-2 Tweeters & (4) PRV Audio MR Series Neo 6.5" Mids Substage: 4 15" Hybrid Subs - Tantric Motors & Sundown Softies Amps: Banda 2.4D Amp (Tweets), American Bass VFL 350.4 (Mids), and (2) Ampere 3800s Electrical :Singer 260A Alt & JY Power Lithium 2005 Chevy Colorado Ext Cab Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS Frontstage: 4 PRV 700Ti Tweets & 6 10" Delta Mids on 3000wrms Substage: 6 Fi BTL 18s in a 4th Order Walkthrough on 3 Wolfram 4500s Electrical: Singer "390" and JY Power My Official Feedback Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) Are the subs tested in free air? Based on the failure rates, I'd assume so. Yes they are -- see this SA-12 QC test video as well : We are hitting it with as much as ~1000 watts in free air dropping down pretty low in frequency. Edited December 16, 2010 by sundownz Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdorre Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 I just watched it and am speechless. I'm just subscribed too Quote On 5/8/2011 at 7:38 PM, Kranny said: On 5/8/2011 at 7:35 PM, 'Maxim' said: It hurts me inside when I read stuff like this and remember you're 15 LMFAO so true Mitsubishi 3000GT (Old Build) Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS Frontstage: (2) McLaren Audio MLT-2 Tweeters & (4) PRV Audio MR Series Neo 6.5" Mids Substage: 4 15" Hybrid Subs - Tantric Motors & Sundown Softies Amps: Banda 2.4D Amp (Tweets), American Bass VFL 350.4 (Mids), and (2) Ampere 3800s Electrical :Singer 260A Alt & JY Power Lithium 2005 Chevy Colorado Ext Cab Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS Frontstage: 4 PRV 700Ti Tweets & 6 10" Delta Mids on 3000wrms Substage: 6 Fi BTL 18s in a 4th Order Walkthrough on 3 Wolfram 4500s Electrical: Singer "390" and JY Power My Official Feedback Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlamDUNKmyJUNK Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hmm. Buy the Sa-12's now, or a wait a bit for these? Don't know if the X's will be close enough in price. We will have to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundownz Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Hmm. Buy the Sa-12's now, or a wait a bit for these? Don't know if the X's will be close enough in price. We will have to see. X-12 will be about $90 more. Quote - Jacob Fuller - Owner, Sundown Audio - Sundown Audio on FACEBOOK - Please DO NOT PM ME -- use my email address -- [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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