its just a tuff choice lol, i see every side to it. and i understand i mean a mtx 9500 15 for 475 in a box isnt a bad price and then a mmats dread in a box for 460. i mean if i do decide to just play by his rules to keep the perks those would prob be my main choices. I mean could get the w7 in the jl box for 650. i think those are great prices. I mean for the 0 gauge wire installed for dual amps with everything needed its going to cost me 140 and its good wiring not shit wire. so if i stay what sub would be best for spl, if i dont just go with dc or fi. I have herd the 9500 it pounds at least to me for what i have herd but then i am partial to mmats since i used to own them