Ok first of all i am a store manager at MCD's. I have alot of young kids that work under me. Alot of them are into car audio etc etc etc. This one kid just bought my REsx 12's. He was peeing all over himself. I took him to this webiste and a few others to get ideas for other things he wants to do. And he was telling some of my other employees about all types of underground subs. DD,DC,SUNDOWN, INCRIMINATOR, AMERICAN BASS, ATOMIC,FI ETC ETC ETC. and it made me think if this shit was underground why was it so expensive. but then i thought again its expensive becaause in my opinion its just better quality and you get what you pay for.It just makes me grin when i leave work and they say hey man turn your shit up. We are just big ass kids with hairy nuts. I just turned 36 and still banging away.