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I didnt realize the 12k actually jumped that high with 18v. I was quoted 22xxx watts at 18v for the 16k. At 18v I'm only putting out about 300 amps at idle with two mechman alts, so I think 10 batteries should suffice. If need be I can fit more though, so I'm not too worried about it.

Dual alts can be done on a civic, just need a custom bracket done. The biggest drawback is you lose your a/c. But it will be worth it. :cheer:

I'm pushing more towards the sd 16k being as it's monstrous power (won't need to upgrade, (probably)), and that it's immediately available.

My response to that is probably because that's my car. It's going to be a daily groundpounder. Also, as for feeding, where am i going to get the power? I'm going to run two 220 amp alts, probably mechman. And will be starting with probably 5 xs power d1600s, as it said in my first post, eventually moving to 7-10.

Hey all, I'm going to be starting my build very soon. This is all going into a 98 4 door civic. I have my mind made up about most of the items going in the build, including the subs, being 4 15" DC lvl 5s in a wall behind the front seats. Well i'm looking right now at amps, and have almost completely decided on Soundigital amps. My plan is to run 5-10 XS power D1600s for a 18v system, so the amp has to run on 18v without modification, which is why SD was very appealing. My dilemma is I'm not sure which amp I want to run. I have also considered DC amps and their pricing is good, but seeing as this shipment is out of the 5ks, i would probably wait for the 9k. Problem is these wont be available till later in April from what I've heard and I would like to start the build within the next couple months. So my current choices are save some cash on the amps right now and bite the bullet for one SD 5k, seeing as they're on sale for a stupid good price. I would then shortly after the build is complete, when the bank account permits, adding another 5k to the mix. Another option would be to save up for a bigger SD amp for a while. If I did that I would probably save for either the 12k or 16k. Remember, this build will be at 18V, so these amps will be feeding quite a bit of power. I'm leaning towards saving for the 16k, as I think the price point is phenomenal, but not sure if I can pass up the price on the 5k. So what do you guys think would be the best option? Is the 5k, probably putting out about 7k @ 18v (not sure about imp rise), going to push the lvl 5s? I know they can take much more, but for just a month or so, before adding a second, will that suffice? Let me know your guys opinion, and vote in the poll too. Thanks in advance.

In for updates on price and availability. Oh yeah...and the video.

aiva (sp?) headunit, 2 10 inch kenwood in a prefab on a 2 channel 300 watt max amp, pioneer 6.5s and OLD school pioneer 6x9s. Oh what I used to think sounded pretty decent... Shortly after built a box for them >.<. Night and day difference.

Meade only uses one alt iirc. But yeah 7 was just a ballpark guesstimate. If I end up pushing the 16k i'll prolly push around 10 d1600s. That and if I go for option 1, i'll probably be pushing two hefty alts, 3 if I can find a way to fab it up. If theres anything I forgot, let me know. I <3 this place, you guys are (normally) full of good information. ^.^ :clapping: Reminds me, how many stepdown modules would be needed to get to a pure 14.4v output? Since they are only capable of 50 amps I believe?

This is what I was thinking...want more power you need to feed it. That being said, I understand its only 5-10k for now. That being said, when the budget permits it, ill be stepping up to more batteries and possibly a SD 16k at some point. It's going to be 4 lvl 5 15s and they will laugh at 10k for all four. So if i'm gonna bite the bullet and do it, I might as well do it right for future upgrades.

Ok, I can see option two as the easier option, but is not running the second alt a problem once you hit a good amount of power? My plans are to run atleast a SD 5k as of now, then soon either upgrade to a 12k or another 5k. These will be pushing 4 DC lvl 5 15"s in a backseat wall. I may just be looking into it too much, but say im only running a 270 amp alt for the 16v bank, how many D1600s will I need to keep up with 8k+ wattage? I know the 1600s are rated for what I believe to be about 1600 watts daily a piece, but will I notice bad voltage drop with 5-7 of these batteries and only one HO alt? Last but not least, I suppose since I don't want to connect the 16v bank to the front 12v battery, 2 runs of 1/0 from the alt to the bank would be my best option I suppose, but as for a ground to the rear bank, just ground to chassis? Or is grounding to the front battery the best/or even an option? Fyi, only reason I ask about the alts, or why im concerned, is i'm not sure if more then a dual alt setup is possible for my car. Its all going into a 98 civic sedan. I know I can run a dual alt setup, but I believe I have to remove the A/C to do so. Will have to look more into that as I start loading up on more equipment for the build.

They did, hence the reason it says ipod in the top left corner. Its not a '3g' touch though, its just the 3 I believe.

I am soon wanting to move to an 18v system running X amount of XS power D1600s for the bank. I have read several ways of doing it, including the sticky in this section, but it seems there are several ways of doing it. I want to basically know what is the best choice. The two options i've found are: 1.) Run a full 16v battery bank, being charged by a 16v alternator(s). Run X amount of stepdown modules to power the car, cd player, and everything else not made to run above 14.4v. 2.) Run a dual alternator setup and two seperate voltage systems. A 12v battery in the stock location being charged by a 12v alternator, while the second alternator (16v) charges up the bank in the back. Now it seems to me that scenario #1 would be the best choice, seeing as you could in fact run 2 16v alternators to charge your bank better, vs wasting 200+ amperes on the 12v battery that is powering nothing but the car. But I was told that the second option would be your best bet. Why is this? Because it is safer if the step down modules fail/short/whatever? For that matter, another question I know several people want the answer to. If I run 18volts to my amps, but a 14.4v (from stepdown modules to the CD player) remote wire, is that going to cause issues? Is there someway to run the remote wire at 18v? I have searched several forums including RoE, here, and Caco for a direct answer and they have all kind of pointed to both of these options, different people claiming either/or is better. So simply put, what is the best way to do it? Thanks in advance.

a sub thats loud and sounds good lol spl mixed with SQ = SQL who wants loud and sounds bad? Anyone who runs a kicker l7? Really loud, but shit with bass response. Sloppy bass FTL.

Bass boost normally causes clipping or distortion. I would not suggest it. Just set your bass to what is comfortable and control the subs with a bass knob.

Makes me want to get anything but a car to actually fit 18s >.>. haha Great vids.

^^ This.

Having your alt rebuilt won't really help you much, but if that's your only option, its worth it later. (should be way down on your prio list) Xs power in the back, throw the cap in a campfire, roast marshmallows and enjoy.

Dealers don't go by Kelly blue book anymore, their prices are much closer to nada pricing. (nada.com) That being said, those blue book prices or more towered trade-ins then for selling a car or truck locally.

This. Boiler, how you like your sd 16ks pushing those things? About how many watts are the subs seeing?

This is why I'm putting an order in for 2 15" lvl 5s along with an sd 5k. Gogo build log on these man.

Meh, they're pretty much ruined now, might as well give them to me. Sexy.

If they're bridged in parallel, they are currently running 2 ohm.

Dual 4 ohm voice coil subs would be the only way to run them both on the same channel and get a 4 ohm load. 2 svc subs you can only either get 2 or 8 ohm load on the same channel. You want four ohm? Run them on separate channels.

I have used p90x and have actually integrated some of the DVDs into my weekly routine. Very good program, but still can't beat free weights IMO. =p As said, you'll just pass any extra protien that your body simply can't break down. Your muscles are like sponges and can only absorb x amount of protien daily, the rest is wasted. Although some crazy bodybuilders have gone to consuming 1g of protien per pound they weigh, spaced throughout the whole day. For the amp protein powder, I believe it also has aa

Wtb updates. Was days away from buying an oscope...glad I saw this. I'm interested. =D