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If I am correct, the calculation is not taking into account the inefficiency of the coil based loudspeaker. According to Wikipedia (and backed up by many sources); Most loudspeakers are actually very inefficient transducers; about 1% of the electrical energy sent by an amplifier to a typical loudspeaker is converted to the acoustic energy we can hear. The remainder is converted to heat, typically in the voice coil and magnet assembly. The main reason for this is the difficulty of achieving proper impedance matching between the acoustic impedance of the drive unit and that of the air into which it is radiating.

What that is saying is that loudspeakers are extremely inneficient and do not work in IH8PunkRok's calculation. Those calculations are in reference to a 100% effiecient driver.

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yea thats prolly true but the calculations on the website were based off of volts goin through a 600 ohm resistor so isnt that fairly inefficient?

but yes everything else is based off of perfect conditions

however its nice to see someone who can talk smart with me

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Also from the little I have read (it is late and I have a headache, just got back from a football game) you are speaking in terms of inside the box, or not even that, all of the energy put into one space, a speaker will put the energy on both sides itself. Then I kinda doubt a speaker box lets out all of the energy it has put into it... not completely sure on that one, just some thoughts that I had. I might look over the math tomorrow, I would say I am pretty decent at math.

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eh i give up on this thing

it appears to be a slight bit over my head cause i really dont know wut im lookin for lol

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im not even going to attempt to comprehend this thread :P

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lol see wut its like to be me? confusing stuff

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The calculation you are using appears to be the calculation for energy released into a point source. There are too many variables involved with sound reproduction to accurately use that calculation in a normal environment. The efficiency of the drivers, the dispersion pattern, size/shape/volume of enclosure, type of enclosure etc etc.

Best to stick with what we all know works methinks.

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yea i agree

ill just go wit wut the mic says

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best bet let the physics do the math and let the mic do the reading...all that i need haha

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