Stee-Z Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 With sound you actully want the panels to be heavier. Its a way to dampen the box. People are saying ply is stiffer. Well it is but it isnt if that makes sence.. Long storie short, birtch resonates more then mdf does. Mdf is better imo Fiberglass and resin the inside then. ive wondered this also, what difference does the resin make ? i am wanting to do this, but their is no point for me to right now, becuase i dont have the basic concept of what it will do lol People claim the resin makes it stronger. I use resin in my screwless design that only use liquid nails. It adds strength and rigidity supposedly. Its cheap, and some people claim it can gain a .5-1 db gain in SPL designs. ok.. now i kinda git it lol, sounds like a challenge for some to take over =P " resined box vs. non resined " It has been done. Even Steve himself recently said he uses it because it gives the box more strength. Not because it massively increases the DBEEEZ COOL! less work for me lol. only problem is the mess fiberglass makes =( You are only going to use the resin. If you wear gloves and take your time, and mix things right its not bad at all. ... il try my hardest rofl Quote (4)DD 9918's (2)DC 10k 8 6.5" focals 2 DD SS4 mid amps Audison Bit One processor Jl-cl-rlc line driver iPad in dash Dual Irragi 320a alts 8 batcaps 4000's Second Skin sound deadened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmilch Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 With sound you actully want the panels to be heavier. Its a way to dampen the box. People are saying ply is stiffer. Well it is but it isnt if that makes sence.. Long storie short, birtch resonates more then mdf does. Mdf is better imo Fiberglass and resin the inside then. ive wondered this also, what difference does the resin make ? i am wanting to do this, but their is no point for me to right now, becuase i dont have the basic concept of what it will do lol People claim the resin makes it stronger. I use resin in my screwless design that only use liquid nails. It adds strength and rigidity supposedly. Its cheap, and some people claim it can gain a .5-1 db gain in SPL designs. ok.. now i kinda git it lol, sounds like a challenge for some to take over =P " resined box vs. non resined " It has been done. Even Steve himself recently said he uses it because it gives the box more strength. Not because it massively increases the DBEEEZ COOL! less work for me lol. only problem is the mess fiberglass makes =( You are only going to use the resin. If you wear gloves and take your time, and mix things right its not bad at all. ... il try my hardest rofl Heres a link to my build of the red oak box My link Quote Pioneer AVH-P4300DVD | Hertz 6.5 | Alpine Type R 6x9 | Custom 200A Alt | Knu Flek 1/0 Big 3 and all wiring | Eclipse EA3422 | AudioQue 2200d | DC XL 12 | Red Oak Box ~2.8 cubes @ 30 hz | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stee-Z Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 nice box actually =Pif you ever have time check my build out "1997 dodge intrepd".. their is a pic of my box on it Quote (4)DD 9918's (2)DC 10k 8 6.5" focals 2 DD SS4 mid amps Audison Bit One processor Jl-cl-rlc line driver iPad in dash Dual Irragi 320a alts 8 batcaps 4000's Second Skin sound deadened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylank811 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Btw I looked at that box earlier, it's so pretty! That box and one of my drumsets gave me an idea. How about a solid Maple box stained charcoal grey? Not sure about resonance qualities, but my 7 ply Maple drum kit sure sounds nice! Quote 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmilch Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Btw I looked at that box earlier, it's so pretty! That box and one of my drumsets gave me an idea. How about a solid Maple box stained charcoal grey? Not sure about resonance qualities, but my 7 ply Maple drum kit sure sounds nice! Your drums have been treated differently and had some other things done to the wood. I play in a band lol and buy a lot of equipment. But maple would be nice if they had a decently priced veneer. I will have to check it out! Quote Pioneer AVH-P4300DVD | Hertz 6.5 | Alpine Type R 6x9 | Custom 200A Alt | Knu Flek 1/0 Big 3 and all wiring | Eclipse EA3422 | AudioQue 2200d | DC XL 12 | Red Oak Box ~2.8 cubes @ 30 hz | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmilch Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 nice box actually =Pif you ever have time check my build out "1997 dodge intrepd".. their is a pic of my box on it I'm checking it out right now. Sorry I didnt take pics of my box being glassed man. Quote Pioneer AVH-P4300DVD | Hertz 6.5 | Alpine Type R 6x9 | Custom 200A Alt | Knu Flek 1/0 Big 3 and all wiring | Eclipse EA3422 | AudioQue 2200d | DC XL 12 | Red Oak Box ~2.8 cubes @ 30 hz | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylank811 Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) Btw I looked at that box earlier, it's so pretty! That box and one of my drumsets gave me an idea. How about a solid Maple box stained charcoal grey? Not sure about resonance qualities, but my 7 ply Maple drum kit sure sounds nice! Your drums have been treated differently and had some other things done to the wood. I play in a band lol and buy a lot of equipment. But maple would be nice if they had a decently priced veneer. I will have to check it out! Haha no, it's my idea and I claim it! But yeah go for it, maybe I'm on to something. Edit: 500th post! 135db! Woot! Edited August 7, 2011 by Dylank811 Quote 2004 Ford Mustang GTPioneer DEH-P7200HD head unitMach 460 Factory System Cadence FXA1600.2 Cadence S2W10 Cadence 4 AWG wiring Ported box, 2 cubes, 32 hertz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stee-Z Posted August 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 nice box actually =Pif you ever have time check my build out "1997 dodge intrepd".. their is a pic of my box on it I'm checking it out right now. Sorry I didnt take pics of my box being glassed man. hhaha its all cool.. good wrok tho =P Quote (4)DD 9918's (2)DC 10k 8 6.5" focals 2 DD SS4 mid amps Audison Bit One processor Jl-cl-rlc line driver iPad in dash Dual Irragi 320a alts 8 batcaps 4000's Second Skin sound deadened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmilch Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 nice box actually =Pif you ever have time check my build out "1997 dodge intrepd".. their is a pic of my box on it I'm checking it out right now. Sorry I didnt take pics of my box being glassed man. hhaha its all cool.. good wrok tho =P Thanks dude!! Quote Pioneer AVH-P4300DVD | Hertz 6.5 | Alpine Type R 6x9 | Custom 200A Alt | Knu Flek 1/0 Big 3 and all wiring | Eclipse EA3422 | AudioQue 2200d | DC XL 12 | Red Oak Box ~2.8 cubes @ 30 hz | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch0sen Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 I work at a construction company with our own lumber yard, (we sale wholesale) and there are quite a few types of hardwoods like birch to use, birch is one of the best, but any hardwood is almost as hard and light, just stay away from pine and you should be fine, now i don't know alot about sound quality with different types of woods, but you can usually get combi packs at most lumber yards for pretty cheap, combi packs mix birch, whiteoak and poplar, and poplar is by far the weekest, almost like pine, so less poplar means stronger wood. http://www.hardwoodinfo.com/species_guide/pdf/Strength%20and%20Mechanical%20Properties.pdf if you really wanna learn more sticking to birch or whiteoak if you don't want mdf is the safest bet though keep in mind the most lumber yards only keep birch, white oak and poplar in stock, sometimes red oak and other specialty's, btw, i love the red oak box jmilch Quote My current 95 Jetta Build w/ pioneer h/u 2 RD Sonance 10's with flatwind coils 2 Audiopipe apsm 1500.1s 1 Hifonics Brutus Elite 60x4 1 XS d925 1 Stinger spv35 1 1000 amp lead acid 50 ft of 0/1 ofc from Audiotechnix all powerbass components, and coaxils, 4 sets buildlog = http://www.stevemead...2-rd-10s-build/ My build for my wife. http://www.stevemead...01-f-150-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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